Re: spam.el/spam-report.el: Gmane spam reporting broken in No Gnus

[Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>]

On Tue, Sep 20 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005, reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc wrote:
[...]
> Can you try to use (spam spam-use-gmane) instead of
> gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane?

Then it works:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq
 gnus-verbose 10
 spam-report-gmane-use-article-number nil
 spam-report-url-ping-function 'spam-report-url-to-file
 gnus-parameters '(("^gmane\\."
		    (spam-process
		     ((spam spam-use-gmane))))))
(spam-initialize)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

>> I found out, that the Gmane entry has been removed from
>> `spam-list-of-processors' ("The OBSOLETE `spam-list-of-processors'
>> list."), but re-adding it didn't help:
[...]
> If you can test as I showed above, that would help me determine if the
> bug is in the Gmane reporting or just the backwards compatibility.

It seems it's in the backwards compatibility.  With this patch [1],
`spam-report-url-to-file' still is not called using this settings:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq
 spam-report-gmane-use-article-number nil
 spam-report-url-ping-function 'spam-report-url-to-file
 gnus-parameters '(("^gmane\\."
		    (spam-process
		     (gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane)))))
(spam-initialize)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I'm a little confused about the obsolescence: In [v5-10]/lisp/spam.el
`spam-list-of-processors' does not seem to be obsolete (CMIIW,
please).  But in the manual, there is:

,----[ [v5-10]/texi/gnus.texi ]
| @emph{WARNING}
| 
| Instead of the obsolete
| @code{gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane}, it is recommended
| that you use @code{'(spam spam-use-gmane)}.  Everything will work the
| same way, we promise.
`----

While at it: In the v5-10 branch, there's the following comment:

,----[ [v5-10]/lisp/spam.el ]
|     ;; note that spam-use-gmane is not a legitimate check
|     (spam-use-gmane      nil
| 			 spam-report-gmane-register-routine
| 			 ;; does Gmane support unregistration?
| 			 nil
| 			 nil)
`----

Gmane supports unregistration: You can reverse the report
  http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.foo.bar:1234 with
http://unspam.gmane.org/gmane.foo.bar:1234

Bye, Reiner.

[1]
,----[ <f1> v spam-list-of-processors RET ]
| spam-list-of-processors is a variable defined in `spam'.
| Its value is shown below.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Value:
| ((gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane spam spam-use-gmane)
|  (gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-bogofilter spam spam-use-bogofilter)
| [...]
|  (gnus-group-ham-exit-processor-spamoracle ham spam-use-spamoracle))
`----
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