From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60992 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el/spam-report.el: Gmane spam reporting broken in No Gnus Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:19:38 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <4nek7jk83j.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1127241633 14928 80.91.229.2 (20 Sep 2005 18:40:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9524@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 20 20:40:25 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EHn0Y-0007a4-PE for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:38:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EHn0N-0005EK-00; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:38:11 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EHmwm-0005EE-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:34:28 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHmwf-0006tx-Tw for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:34:28 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EHmwe-0000qi-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:34:20 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EHmut-0006C1-Nv for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:32:32 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:32:31 +0200 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:32:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 87 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: 1;h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB;kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm;%Od On Tue, Sep 20 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Thu, 08 Sep 2005, reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc wrote: [...] > Can you try to use (spam spam-use-gmane) instead of > gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane? Then it works: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (setq gnus-verbose 10 spam-report-gmane-use-article-number nil spam-report-url-ping-function 'spam-report-url-to-file gnus-parameters '(("^gmane\\." (spam-process ((spam spam-use-gmane)))))) (spam-initialize) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> I found out, that the Gmane entry has been removed from >> `spam-list-of-processors' ("The OBSOLETE `spam-list-of-processors' >> list."), but re-adding it didn't help: [...] > If you can test as I showed above, that would help me determine if the > bug is in the Gmane reporting or just the backwards compatibility. It seems it's in the backwards compatibility. With this patch [1], `spam-report-url-to-file' still is not called using this settings: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (setq spam-report-gmane-use-article-number nil spam-report-url-ping-function 'spam-report-url-to-file gnus-parameters '(("^gmane\\." (spam-process (gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane))))) (spam-initialize) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I'm a little confused about the obsolescence: In [v5-10]/lisp/spam.el `spam-list-of-processors' does not seem to be obsolete (CMIIW, please). But in the manual, there is: ,----[ [v5-10]/texi/gnus.texi ] | @emph{WARNING} | | Instead of the obsolete | @code{gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane}, it is recommended | that you use @code{'(spam spam-use-gmane)}. Everything will work the | same way, we promise. `---- While at it: In the v5-10 branch, there's the following comment: ,----[ [v5-10]/lisp/spam.el ] | ;; note that spam-use-gmane is not a legitimate check | (spam-use-gmane nil | spam-report-gmane-register-routine | ;; does Gmane support unregistration? | nil | nil) `---- Gmane supports unregistration: You can reverse the report http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.foo.bar:1234 with http://unspam.gmane.org/gmane.foo.bar:1234 Bye, Reiner. [1] ,----[ v spam-list-of-processors RET ] | spam-list-of-processors is a variable defined in `spam'. | Its value is shown below. | | [...] | | Value: | ((gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane spam spam-use-gmane) | (gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-bogofilter spam spam-use-bogofilter) | [...] | (gnus-group-ham-exit-processor-spamoracle ham spam-use-spamoracle)) `---- -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/