From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61165 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Display unknown non-ASCII chars as `.', `X' or `?' Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:39:37 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <877jcjp3ob.fsf@obelix.mork.no> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1129236607 31622 80.91.229.2 (13 Oct 2005 20:50:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9698@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Oct 13 22:49:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EQ9vT-0002Wk-84 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:43:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EQ9vN-0008SL-00; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:43:37 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EQ9vB-0008SG-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:43:25 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EQ9v4-0006YP-1g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:43:25 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EQ9v2-00023z-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:43:16 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EQ9sI-0001Bn-AG for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:40:26 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:40:26 +0200 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:40:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: 'bg&jY[8V'W&:=~6w"|>}#4/T;w~36ei4NNMyKRR.a$n=$|sWFPF1y]a\>6kc\*#GN]UDM| Ywv,vbL^XF1nIp\:F=$Ei2o&mEe:%N~,:3]vtQ~s9u$9izmX$IF@VgGl7/,^dbuM<3|AO2}.%|%?kZ 2Y=@\U!~cll^=8Z9ihKq%wmUe1Ky(#kl3T'>Qk0Ia3mCBsTk?E(,X Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:802TOZgb0rWCE0jQVUAhiY8QyCg= X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61165 Archived-At: On Wed, Oct 12 2005, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Reiner Steib writes: [...] >> While at it... >> | If so, why does it not replace everything by dots, X or ?. >> >> I.e. if the charset is not available: How can we configure Gnus to >> display every non-ASCII chars as `.', `X' or `?'? > > This is a violation of RFC2049, which gives the following criteria for > a MIME-conformant MUA: > > -- Treat material in an unknown character set as if it were > "application/octet-stream". I fail to see the connection (Disclaimer: I didn't read this RFC). "application/octet-stream" is a content type, whereas I was talking about the charset. BTW: Yesterday, in the German newsgroup de.comm.software.newsreader a thread titled "Zeichensatz erraten"[1] started about this topic. Some people claim that the receiver _must_ assume `us-ascii' when MIME headers are absent. In case it wasn't clear: I don't want to change Gnus default behavior. But maybe it makes sense to replace unknown chars by `?' for some users so it should be possible to do this with Gnus. Bye, Reiner. [1] http://www.google.de/groups?as_umsgid=9fk6Itd7fjB%40helmut.hullen.de&hl=en http://groups.google.de/group/de.comm.software.newsreader/browse_frm/thread/7c7ed4e3c7e63560/cede6121a1685dda#cede6121a1685dda -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/