From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57574 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Quoting region in reply and transient-mark-mode (was: Error while quoting) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:50:01 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085040667 21142 80.91.224.253 (20 May 2004 08:11:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6114@lists.math.uh.edu Thu May 20 10:10:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQidm-0006PZ-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 10:10:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BQidH-0006Aa-00; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:10:27 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BQidC-0006AV-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:10:22 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BQidB-0002aS-SP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD653A0040 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:10:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQid9-0002ad-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 10:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from dialin-145-254-248-151.arcor-ip.net ([145.254.248.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 10:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from reiner.steib by dialin-145-254-248-151.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 10:10:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 75 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-248-151.arcor-ip.net X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.;yo.b yq4$p;ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PUIYZZN8FIbDxnlJvLzRRnwFRa8= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57574 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57574 On Thu, May 20 2004, Nevin Kapur wrote: > Selections aren't working as though; even when one exists, the entire > message is quoted. (My CVS is from yesterday, so I cannot check ATM.) I guess that his is due to Jesper's change on 2004-05-18[1]. Now, you need to use `transient-mark-mode' in order to quote the region. Following the ChangeLog[1], it seems that (not) requiring `transient-mark-mode' to quote the region changes once in a while. Personally, I'd prefer not requiring `transient-mark-mode' as explained on gnus-bugs[2] (see also the other messages in this thread). OTOH, requiring `transient-mark-mode' probably is more consistent with the behavior of other Emacs commands, e.g. `query-replace'. (IMHO, when selection a region with the mouse without `transient-mark-mode' should behave as if `transient-mark-mode' is active, because the user _has_ a clear visible feedback about the region. IIRC this has been discussed on emacs-devel recently, but I don't know if any change was implemented.) Bye, Reiner. [1] ,----[ lisp/ChangeLog* ] | 2004-05-18 Jesper Harder | | * gnus-art.el (gnus-article-followup-with-original) | (gnus-article-reply-with-original): gnus-mark-active-p -> | gnus-region-active-p. | | 2002-01-12 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | | * gnus-art.el (gnus-article-reply-with-original): Use | `mark-active'. | | 2002-01-11 ShengHuo ZHU | | * gnus-art.el (article-display-x-face): Ditto. | (gnus-article-reply-with-original): Use gnus-region-active-p. | (gnus-article-followup-with-original): Ditto. | | 2002-01-03 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | | * gnus-art.el (gnus-article-reply-with-original): New command. | (gnus-article-followup-with-original): New command. `---- [2] ,----[ ] | From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> | Subject: Re: message-yank-original yanks only a part of the original message | To: bugs@gnus.org | Date: Wed May 12 13:47:37 2004 +0200 | Message-ID: | | On Wed, May 12 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: | | > IMO, that gnus-summary-followup-with-original picks up a region | > is useless if a region is invisible. | | I don't like transient-mark-mode and I often use apply command on a | region, after using set-mark-command, i.e. without a visible region. | | (I mostly use Emacs 21.3; Emacs 21.3.50 has some improvements related | to this: Transient Mark mode can be enabled temporarily using `C-SPC | C-SPC'.) `---- -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- PGP key available via WWW http://rsteib.home.pages.de/