From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66686 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Gnus package (was: xemacs vs emacs) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:28:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: <28683.1207370808@rawbw.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207391539 11372 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2008 10:32:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ding@gnus.org To: Mike Kupfer Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15170@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 05 12:32:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ji5ha-0004nx-IQ for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:32:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji5fy-0002bm-RK; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:31:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji5fx-0002bW-Eh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji5fq-0005zx-W3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ji5g0-0004d8-00 for ; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:31:12 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m35AV0lk019632; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:31:00 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6475F1C618; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:30:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: /U7=m^"/-Dn61mAl{g9e3>\G5Tp,oEX|V)g2I1hBk\ML;)7A?6cmB-y7y?'NA^J<=oz7syB =(McAwIHgLX!.B?R3X}98d@?>CrT094KLWh]WU4gDpnL/")MS(XoQTv`Oq225uL>+;CpPXo$N5e>N> $tPd-gbB^F{gQS#1ase]XO~D4p4M"3+F-7~u]dy3I?Pb8RO*H-EFeWDUf?Rf,d]pv\Jvh2Cht!A=im yKAS2Z%Ao^;}W/qzMvMm Mail-Followup-To: Mike Kupfer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <28683.1207370808@rawbw.com> (Mike Kupfer's message of "Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:46:48 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-Misty-Metrics: poseidon 1170; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66686 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:27607 Archived-At: On Sat, Apr 05 2008, Mike Kupfer wrote: >>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib writes: > > Reiner> But even the versions in "pre-release" are outdated. Gnus > Reiner> 5.10.8 has been released on 2006-04-11. We will release 5.10.10 > Reiner> soon. Emacs 22.2 already contains the code corresponding to > Reiner> this version. > ... > Reiner> I don't know which versions are in the stable XEmacs packages. > > The stable gnus package is 5.10.8 plus a patch. The pre-release version > is the stable version plus an additional two patches. Now that you mention it, I remember that 5.10.8 already was in the stable XEmacs packages. Reading "5.10.8" in Norbert's pre-release announcement, I incorrectly assumed that the stable package must be older (with regards to the upstream version). Sorry for the confusion and thanks for clarifying. Please accept my apologies for getting it all wrong. Are the patches you mention already integrated upstream in the v5-10 branch? > As for it being outdated, well, hey, 5.10.8 is the latest stable > release, isn't it? When 5.10.10 is released, I'll start work to update > the XEmacs package. Thank you. If you sync from v5-10, we could add a tag (we already have "xemacs-pkg-1_90") to Gnus repository so the Gnus maintainers can find out which code corresponds to which XEmacs package version (when cherry-picking certain patches, tagging probably doesn't make much sense). So the answer to your question [1] is "yes". (I found [1] by searching for this tag. If you have questions/information to/for the Gnus maintainers/users, please send them to ding@gnus.org as well (I don't follow xemacs list regularly). E.g. announcing the availability of new Gnus XEmacs (pre-release) package on ding and/or gnu.emacs.gnus is fine with me. Bye, Reiner. [1] ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.patches/9266/focus=9274 ] | From: Mike Kupfer | [...] | By the way, the previous maintainer of the XEmacs Gnus package (Steve | Youngs) mentioned to me that he would tag the Gnus CVS repository to | indicate XEmacs packages. For example, gnus-agent.el has a | xemacs-pkg-1_90 tag. Is that a practice you (the Gnus maintainers) | would like me to continue? `---- -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/