* "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
@ 2007-11-12 18:02 Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-12 18:38 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2007-11-12 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Hi,
I read emacs-devel@gnu.org through gmane. After gnus got upgraded in
emacs CVS when I do "S W" on an article in gmane.emacs.devel this
question is asked "Really reply by mail to article author?".
This does not happen with emacs-22.1. I did not change any settings.
Can the old default of not asking this question be restored?
Thanks
--dan
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-11-12 18:02 "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2007-11-12 18:38 ` Reiner Steib
2007-11-12 19:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-11-12 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: ding
On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> I read emacs-devel@gnu.org through gmane. After gnus got upgraded in
> emacs CVS when I do "S W" on an article in gmane.emacs.devel this
> question is asked "Really reply by mail to article author?".
> This does not happen with emacs-22.1. I did not change any settings.
The default of `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' has changed:
-(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news gnus-novice-user
+(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news (and gnus-novice-user
+ (not gnus-expert-user))
Probably you have set both, `gnus-novice-user' and `gnus-expert-user'
to nil.
> Can the old default of not asking this question be restored?
You could also customize `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' to be a
regexp or a function to exclude Gmane groups.
,----[ <f1> v gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news RET ]
| gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news is a variable defined in `gnus-msg.el'.
| Its value is t
|
| Documentation:
| If non-nil, Gnus requests confirmation when replying to news.
| This is done because new users often reply by mistake when reading
| news.
| This can also be a function receiving the group name as the only
| parameter, which should return non-nil if a confirmation is needed; or
| a regexp, in which case a confirmation is asked for if the group name
| matches the regexp.
|
| You can customize this variable.
|
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 23.0 of Emacs.
`----
(I have adjusted the custom version now in Gnus trunk.)
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-11-12 18:38 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-11-12 19:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-12 21:16 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2007-11-12 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
>
> > I read emacs-devel@gnu.org through gmane. After gnus got upgraded in
> > emacs CVS when I do "S W" on an article in gmane.emacs.devel this
> > question is asked "Really reply by mail to article author?".
> > This does not happen with emacs-22.1. I did not change any settings.
>
> The default of `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' has changed:
>
> -(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news gnus-novice-user
> +(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news (and gnus-novice-user
> + (not gnus-expert-user))
>
> Probably you have set both, `gnus-novice-user' and `gnus-expert-user'
> to nil.
I don't set any of those.
The default is actually nil in 22.1.
> > Can the old default of not asking this question be restored?
>
> You could also customize `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' to be a
> regexp or a function to exclude Gmane groups.
Thanks, I can certainly do that. The question is what is the best
default. Should the users see an extra question in 23.1?
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-11-12 19:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2007-11-12 21:16 ` Reiner Steib
2007-11-24 22:20 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-11-12 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: ding
On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> > The default of `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' has changed:
[...]
> The default is actually nil in 22.1.
You are right. The above diff was only the most recent change. The
diff to Emacs 22 is:
-(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news nil
+(defcustom gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news (and gnus-novice-user
+ (not gnus-expert-user))
> The question is what is the best default. Should the users see an
> extra question in 23.1?
The rationale for the current default is that if the user is a novice
and not a Gnus expert (see the doc string of `gnus-expert-user'), he
should be warned. This sounds plausible. But I'm not sure if using
`S W' in Gmane groups has been considered there. Probably the default
should be nil for (very) wide replies. What do people think?
[I don't have time to implement this during the next week.]
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-11-12 21:16 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-11-24 22:20 ` Reiner Steib
2007-12-08 14:20 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-11-24 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: ding
On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Reiner Steib wrote:
> The rationale for the current default is that if the user is a novice
> and not a Gnus expert (see the doc string of `gnus-expert-user'), he
> should be warned. This sounds plausible. But I'm not sure if using
> `S W' in Gmane groups has been considered there. Probably the default
> should be nil for (very) wide replies. What do people think?
I have installed the following change in Gnus trunk:
--- gnus-msg.el 12 Nov 2007 19:36:53 +0100 7.61
+++ gnus-msg.el 24 Nov 2007 23:19:20 +0100
@@ -1101,7 +1101,10 @@
((functionp gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)
(funcall gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news gnus-newsgroup-name))
(t gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)))
- (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))
+ (if (or wide very-wide)
+ t ;; Ignore gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news for wide and very
+ ;; wide replies.
+ (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))))
(let* ((article
(if (listp (car yank))
(caar yank)
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-11-24 22:20 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-12-08 14:20 ` Reiner Steib
2007-12-08 18:25 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-12-08 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: ding
On Sat, Nov 24 2007, Reiner Steib wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Reiner Steib wrote:
>> The rationale for the current default is that if the user is a novice
>> and not a Gnus expert (see the doc string of `gnus-expert-user'), he
>> should be warned. This sounds plausible. But I'm not sure if using
>> `S W' in Gmane groups has been considered there. Probably the default
>> should be nil for (very) wide replies. What do people think?
>
> I have installed the following change in Gnus trunk:
>
> --- gnus-msg.el 12 Nov 2007 19:36:53 +0100 7.61
> +++ gnus-msg.el 24 Nov 2007 23:19:20 +0100
> @@ -1101,7 +1101,10 @@
> ((functionp gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)
> (funcall gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news gnus-newsgroup-name))
> (t gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)))
> - (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))
> + (if (or wide very-wide)
> + t ;; Ignore gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news for wide and very
> + ;; wide replies.
> + (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))))
> (let* ((article
> (if (listp (car yank))
> (caar yank)
Dan, does it solve your problem? If so, could you please remove the
item from FOR-RELEASE in Emacs?
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: "Really reply by mail to article author" for gmane groups
2007-12-08 14:20 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-12-08 18:25 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2007-12-08 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Sat, Nov 24 2007, Reiner Steib wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 12 2007, Reiner Steib wrote:
> >> The rationale for the current default is that if the user is a novice
> >> and not a Gnus expert (see the doc string of `gnus-expert-user'), he
> >> should be warned. This sounds plausible. But I'm not sure if using
> >> `S W' in Gmane groups has been considered there. Probably the default
> >> should be nil for (very) wide replies. What do people think?
> >
> > I have installed the following change in Gnus trunk:
> >
> > --- gnus-msg.el 12 Nov 2007 19:36:53 +0100 7.61
> > +++ gnus-msg.el 24 Nov 2007 23:19:20 +0100
> > @@ -1101,7 +1101,10 @@
> > ((functionp gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)
> > (funcall gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news gnus-newsgroup-name))
> > (t gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news)))
> > - (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))
> > + (if (or wide very-wide)
> > + t ;; Ignore gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news for wide and very
> > + ;; wide replies.
> > + (y-or-n-p "Really reply by mail to article author? "))))
> > (let* ((article
> > (if (listp (car yank))
> > (caar yank)
>
> Dan, does it solve your problem?
It does. Thanks!
> If so, could you please remove the
> item from FOR-RELEASE in Emacs?
Done.
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