From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66971 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus doesn't like charset=utf8 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87od727mpo.fsf@dod.no> <861w3yp1y2.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211229535 4135 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2008 20:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:38:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15447@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 19 22:39:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JyC6l-000605-Lb for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:37:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JyC5G-0002uV-Ih; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:35:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JyC5F-0002uC-8O for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:35:49 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JyC58-0007Ey-Nu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:35:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JyC5N-00027q-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:35:57 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4JKZedY026255 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:35:40 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431561311D for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:35:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: mtjf/D:es1T0wHO:&CJ'ZXe"l;3C--rw\z!{`eFwL){|]RpI+4{u25L=5C /0>KuGeTsk<~<&NE-AKV1560e!+RJeyWmSskkrJm?[vUV#66{T_m|Ae<||Ku#Mk5`y&O`n~z2;n8eP J5#2h@2eQgV@E70IY_0WlEx!"&giy{+\%h1LJox$zv@/l%ZmU4^tZA>xQpnkUBVC5.jpg#0'(+2?Rs )NAr:>3<=WxHE$ktbLysDIM5TbmHu*3 (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 19 May 2008 13:45:57 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-dcc-servers.net-Metrics: poseidon 102; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66971 Archived-At: On Mon, May 19 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Reiner Steib wrote: > > RS> If it becomes a more frequent mistake, we might add (utf8 . utf-8) to > RS> the default value `mm-charset-synonym-alist'. > > Why not just do that now? It's unlikely it will be a problem, and it's > convenient for the users. I hesitate to pollute `mm-charset-synonym-alist' by adding entries for each and every pilot error. In my news spool (Usenet and lots of mailing lists from Gmane) there are more than 65000 messages. Only the following articles have a bogus "utf8" charset (< 0.01%): Message-ID: <1210812843.2778.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Message-ID: <1209541359.31036.35.camel@pancake> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 [within a multipart] Message-ID: <1208020498.2196.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 [within a multipart] Message-ID: <1203494405.25030.9.camel@gora.got.jeppesensystems.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-40.el5) Message-ID: <1206725412.13594.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 Message-ID: <1210906262.13406.2.camel@brad.home.bradmwalker.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) All from Evolution. According to it is fixed there now. Not adding it in `mm-charset-synonym-alist' might help to fix broken MUAs/NUAs. ;-) BTW, I seem to recall that using (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8) might trigger Gnus into creating charset=utf8. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/