From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/51320 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Better integration of the new Gnus FAQ in Oort Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:02:44 +0200 Organization: private Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nfzopkoq5.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> Reply-To: reiner.steib@gmx.de NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050103503 722 80.91.224.249 (11 Apr 2003 23:25:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 23:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Sat Apr 12 01:25:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1947tF-0000BH-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:25:01 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1947tP-0004XK-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:25:11 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14513 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:26:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1947sY-00009x-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:24:18 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@hpc.uh.edu X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@hpc.uh.edu Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1947sV-000099-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:24:15 +0200 Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-Face: mtjf/D:es1T0wHO:&CJ'ZXe"l;3C--rw\z!{`eFwL){|]RpI+4{u25L=5C /0>KuGeTsk<~<&NE-AKV1560e!+RJeyWmSskkrJm?[vUV#66{T_m|Ae<||Ku#Mk5`y&O`n~z2;n8eP J5#2h@2eQgV@E70IY_0WlEx!"&giy{+\%h1LJox$zv@/l%ZmU4^tZA>xQpnkUBVC5.jpg#0'(+2?Rs )NAr:>3<=WxHE$ktbLysDIM5TbmHu*3 On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, 4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de wrote: >> What do people think? I could add the buttons easily. Can someone >> give me hints on how to implement the "jump to >> `nndoc+gnus-help:gnus-help' and go to ..." part in a reasonably >> manner? Or better send code. ;-) > > I like the idea, and I can write the code to get the article but I > don't know how to do the parsing necessary to jump to a section or > item number. This was my problem too, but I though it was just my ignorance. :-) IMHO, ideally, we should have something like incremental search or `i' and `,' in info. Is this feasible? Ideas? Please post the code, even if the jump-to thingie is missing. Probably somebody on the list will know how to fill the gap. > I think we should also buttonize every instance of "gnus faq item > [0-9.]+" (case-insensitive). Yes, this can be added easily. The button regexps are case-insensitive anyhow. > That way, you can just say "see gnus FAQ item 4.7" and a link would > be shown to the user. This would be similar to "in article " buttons: ("\\bin\\( +article\\| +message\\)? +\\(<\\([^\n @<>]+@[^\n @<>]+\\)>\\)" 2 (>= gnus-button-message-level 0) gnus-button-message-id 3) > Asking users to run Lisp code may be a problem for novices. If we have buttons for such stuff in 5.10, novice users just have to press RET or mouse-2 on stuff like (gnus-faq-search "mm-text-html-renderer"). (And it's international.) We often see answers like "See `C-h v some-var RET'." even now---that non-Oort users don't have buttons for. And my impression is, that those answers are appreciated by novices. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- PGP key available via WWW http://rsteib.home.pages.de/