From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66344 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs unicode merge changes to Gnus Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <61r6fqbyuv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871w7fvymc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tzk9zxsq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203638767 19185 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 00:06:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14836@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 22 01:06:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSLQr-0000or-RX for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:06:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPN-0005ST-Bb; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:57 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPI-0005Rl-Pb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:52 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPC-00066k-OA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:52 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JSLPH-0004ib-00 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:51 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1M04eqg020009; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:41 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2B112F9F; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:40 +0100 (CET) X-Face: P05mdcZT&lL[-s2=mw~RsllZ0zZAb?vdE}.s, ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:29:12 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.90 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-HP_X86_64_8CPU-Metrics: poseidon 1245; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66344 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 20 2008, Miles Bader wrote: > On Feb 16, 2008 9:39 AM, Reiner Steib wrote: >> > 1) Should gnus write the cookie? (obviously yes, I think) >> > >> > 2) Should Gnus stop forcing the coding system when it reads the file? >> > (i.e., should Gnus let coding: do its job) >> > >> > 3) Should Gnus switch to utf-8-emacs as the default coding system for >> > writing files? >> >> Sounds reasonable. Please apply (1) and (2). > > ... However I now notice that Gnus has used "utf-8-emacs" by default > for a _long_ time, if it's supported!! Here's the ChangeLog entry: > > 2003-04-24 Dave Love > > * mm-util.el (mm-make-temp-file, mm-insert-byte): New. > (mm-auto-save-coding-system): Consider utf-8-emacs. > > That means anybody who's been running the unicode branch (a lot of > people), or the trunk (since the branch was merged) has had their Gnus > files encoding using utf-8-emacs for quite a while... > > So I'm not sure what to do, really... It seems like a step backward > (and perhaps dangerous) to explicitly change that to emacs-mule. Okay, let's use utf-8-emacs. We should warn about the incompatibility in GNUS-NEWS (info "(gnus)No Gnus") and emacs/etc/NEWS. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/