From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58722 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: @documentencoding, `makeinfo --enable-encoding' (was: Syncing some doc fixes to v5-10) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:11:57 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87r7ow1rfp.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096913567 18101 80.91.229.6 (4 Oct 2004 18:12:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 20:12:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CEXK6-0007hW-00 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:12:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEXQh-0001Hg-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEXQU-0001Gb-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEXQT-0001GB-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEXQT-0001G8-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [134.60.1.1] (helo=mail-new.rz.uni-ulm.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CEXJa-0000FS-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de (lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.173]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i94IBvFR020253; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:11:57 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix, from userid 170) id 3259D1814F; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:11:57 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: Emacs development , Ding List Original-To: Emacs development , Ding List X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-RollaNet-Metrics: gemini 1004; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27898 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58722 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58722 On Tue, Sep 21 2004, Jesper Harder wrote: > Miles Bader writes: > >> Jesper Harder writes: >> >>> Is it strictly necessary? It doesn't really matter except for the >>> hard-copy version. And I'd rather not mess around with the Emacs >>> Make/Automake files (which would be required). >> >> Are these changes that would be desirable in general for the emacs doc >> Makefiles? > > I don't know ... if the Emacs docs contain many Texinfo-"encoded" > Latin-1 chars, e.g. @aa{} and so on, I suppose it would be nicer to > display them with the actual glyph, "=C3=A5", rather than in an ASCII > rendition, "aa". Beside `gnus.texi', there are some other files in Emacs using non-ascii characters (this list is most probably incomplete): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs/man$ grep -ie '[=C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC=C3=9F=C3=A1=C3=A9=C3=AD=C3=B3=C3= =BA=C3=A0=C3=A8=C3=AC=C3=B2=C3=B9=C2=AC]' -e '@aa{}' -e '@\"[aou]' *.texi ack.texi:Torbj@"orn emacs.texi:Dukhovni, John Eaton, Rolf Ebert, Stephen Eglen, Torbj@"orn Eina= rsson, emacs.texi:Sebastian Kremer, Geoff Kuenning, David K@aa{}gedal, Daniel LaLi= berte, faq.texi:Roland Sch=C3=A4uble reports that Emacs 18.58 running on plain TOS= and MiNT gnus.texi:makes strings like @samp{d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vu} look like @samp{d=3DE= 9j=3DE0 vu}, which gnus.texi:@itemx =C2=AC ses.texi:Stefan Reich=C3=B6r @email{xsteve@@riic.at}@* --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It becomes quite obvious that something is wrong when you look at the info pages using... LC_ALL=3Dgreek emacs -q -no-site-file --eval '(info "(efaq)Emacs for Atari = ST")' ... or similar: You get "Sch=CE=B4uble" instead of "Sch=C3=A4uble". IIRC, at least Latin-1 characters work correctly in info and dvi when using --enable-encoding and @"a [1]. Bye, Reiner. [1] http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=3Dgmane.comp.tex.texinfo.gener= al&query=3Ddocumentencoding+enable+encoding --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/