From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62059 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.mail.mh-e.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Icons for frequently used sort commands Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <28928.1129483226@olgas.newt.com> <30678.1129563148@olgas.newt.com> <16231.1140316818@olgas.newt.com> <3873.1140465433@olgas.newt.com> <8674.1140481811@olgas.newt.com> <32181.1140560558@olgas.newt.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140569410 11849 80.91.229.2 (22 Feb 2006 00:50:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Feb 22 01:50:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gmmd-mh-e-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists-outbound.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.225]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBiCj-0001jF-E4 for gmmd-mh-e-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:50:06 +0100 Original-Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.7]) by sc8-sf-spam1.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33221883DE; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:50:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.91] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FBiCB-00017H-Q4 for mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:49:31 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.1]) by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.44) id 1FBiCA-0000Yy-C8 for mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:49:32 -0800 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1M0nQZW026912; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:49:27 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from viandante.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with SMTP id C36BF112E9; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:49:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 12149 invoked by uid 170); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:30:43 -0000 Original-To: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Mail-Followup-To: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ding@gnus.org X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.;yo.b yq4$p;ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ In-Reply-To: <32181.1140560558@olgas.newt.com> (Bill Wohler's message of "Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:22:38 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-meer-Metrics: gemini 1086; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id k1M0nQZW026912 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 Original-Sender: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Forum for the MH-E developers List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:30:42 +0100 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:11724 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62059 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 21 2006, Bill Wohler wrote: > Reiner Steib wrote: > >> Those names make sense for Gnome, but not necessarily for Gnus. > > Whenever we're creating names outside of the etc/images/gnus namespace, > we should be creating names that make sense for all of Emacs. Sure. >> It would be good to have feedback which kind of sort command are >> frequently used. > > MH-E has mh-sort-folder which sorts by date. You can pass a prefix > argument which tells it to use mh-sortm-args in which case the sort is > custom.=20 Gnus uses the prefix to reverse the sort. > We'd use the sort-ascending icon. I'd suggest to add all 5 Gnome sort icons (in etc/images/). In case we need other icons for Gnus, we can add them (later) in gnus/sort-whatever. WDYT? > If possible, it sounds like what would work well for Gnus is to use the > sort-ascending icon that doubles as a pull-down menu. A click would run > the default sort, while a drag would display a menu from which the user > can select one the various sort types. I'm not sure about "drag", but a menu on mouse-3 click would be fine (like a context menu). But this is not possible in Emacs 21 and 22, (see [1]), but we can bind related actions to C- or S-. Alas I didn't know about this when designing the customize interface for Gnus' menus so it's currently not supported (I hope to add it later on). Bye, Reiner. [1] ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/50563 ] | From: "Jan D." | Subject: Re: tool bar: C-... and S-... fail in GTK builds | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel | Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org | Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:57:08 +0100 (CET) | Message-ID: <200602151057.k1FAv8lR009084@coolsville.localdomain> | Original-To: Juri Linkov |=20 | [...] |=20 | > Thanks! Could you see how hard would be to implement mouse-2 and mo= use-3 | > clicking on a tool bar item? Is the main obstacle only in the format | > of the menu keymap specification? |=20 | It is not hard on the C level. we can put the button clicked in the co= de | part of the struct input_event, and keyboard.c would then look at that | also when constructing an event (currently code is ignored for tool bar | events). |=20 | But I don't know to construct the Lisp event. It could be done like | for native scroll bars. It is a mouse-event with a position that says | scroll bar. But the lisp code expects the position to contain a window= , | but for non-native tool bars (i.e. GTK) there is no window to put in | there, just a frame. `---- --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642