From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56553 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Scoring examples Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:50:23 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078423344 21749 80.91.224.253 (4 Mar 2004 18:02:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 18:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5094@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 04 19:02:01 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AyxAW-00031n-00 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:02:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ayx9o-0005SI-00; Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:01:16 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ayx9g-0005SC-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:01:08 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C983A01F6 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:01:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ayx9e-0008Im-00 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:01:06 +0100 Original-Received: from lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu Mar 4 18:01:06 2004 Original-Received: from reiner.steib by lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu Mar 4 18:01:06 2004 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 67 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: .*T0'iU(sujq_j9\J>-d4fg;N/1++U#U$_5ii6k.=|"-n'?5O:Hyz&wi'-!I~,}7~GgT=0S /&-R5sbkNy5+Xo1y{Tw2KKxi@Xh"g@]Qc|.U<*]WDd)qvGowFDvfU1F]{EDho:7P0@|oOD=Bc{K4?> WP68K[Mx:}=`ZT'6g4'f+g?;`vri2!)xGy}3:=l'(/Cea0l4lo^H5#@/Z3ev Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VrZ82SfHe7IiEfmTQ60nKnCCWAg= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56553 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56553 On Thu, Mar 04 2004, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes: > >> On Wed, Mar 03 2004, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> >>> (("xref" >>> ("gmane.spam.detected" -1000 nil s)) >> [...] >>> (mark-and-expunge -100)) >> >> Does this setup already reject the spammy articles at XOVER level? Or >> will the headers or even the article be downloaded nevertheless? > > The latter. Strange. I always though that the summary can be built from the overview data. Some test: ,----[ ~/News/nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.test.SCORE ] | (("xref" | ("gmane.spam.detected" -1000 nil s)) | ("subject" | ("test" -1 nil s)) | (mark-and-expunge -100)) `---- After entering nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.test (in Gnus 5.10.6), I get: ,----[ *nntp-log* ] | 20040304T184412.725 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.test | 20040304T184412.774 news.gmane.org XOVER 1244-1343 `---- Of course, this is not possible anymore if you have some scoring rules on head or body. Another test with... ,----[ ~/News/nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.test.SCORE ] | (("xref" | ("gmane.spam.detected" -1000 nil s)) | ("subject" | ("test" -2000 nil s)) | (mark-and-expunge -100)) `---- ... gives the same nntp log output and the article with subject test are expunged and become visible with `/ E'. > I'm not sure how leafnode2 kill articles; if it re-uses the article > id the killed article would have got, then it works better (but with > more work). When Xref is present in the overview data (this is always the case, I think), the article is dropped already at this stage. As for the article _numbers_ (I don't know what your "article id" means here), leafnode chooses the numbers independently from the numbers on the upstream server(s). So there are no holes in the number ranges. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- PGP key available via WWW http://rsteib.home.pages.de/