On Mon, Feb 13 2006, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> On  9 Feb 2006, reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc wrote:
>> (setq
>> gnus-parameters
>> `(;; [other stuff]
>> (":Spam/Unsure"
>> (ham-process-destination ,rs-imap-train-ham-group
>> 			     ,rs-imap-inbox-group)

[ BTW: The re-indenting of code like this is a misfeature of the
  citation package your are using, IMHO. ;-) ]

> Can you go inside the group and check what spam-move-ham-routine is
> doing?  

For testing, I changed...
  (ham-process-destination ,rs-imap-train-ham-group
                           ,rs-imap-inbox-group)
... to...
  (ham-process-destination "nnml+personal:misc.Spam.test-ham1"
                           "nnml+personal:misc.Spam.test-ham2")

I copied some random article to the Spam/Unsure group and marked it with
`d' (i.e. as ham).  Then I quit with `q'.

Strange.  I found that doesn't fail all the time.  Attached you'll
find three edebug-transcripts (spam-ham.debug-662, -663, -664) from
the *Messages* buffer.  In the case of spam-ham.debug-662, the article
was successfully copied to both targets.  For -663 and -664 it failed.
I edebugged `spam-move-ham-routine' and `spam-copy-or-move-routine'.

> Specifically, what is the value of
>
> (gnus-parameter-ham-process-destination gnus-newsgroup-name)

M-: (gnus-parameter-ham-process-destination gnus-newsgroup-name) RET
returns ("nnimap+kiz:bayes/ham" "nnimap+kiz:INBOX").

("nnml+personal:misc.Spam.test-ham1" "nnml+personal:misc.Spam.test-ham2")
with the test setup, resp.

> and whether spam-move-ham-routine is getting invoked at all?

It is invoked.

>> In the "^gmane\\." entry, I need a conditional for v5-10 and trunk,
>> because the backward compatibility code doesn't work correctly,
>> see [2].
>
> Well, spam-list-of-processors doesn't contain
> gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane so perhaps that's why it
> doesn't work.  Can you try adding
>
> (gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane spam spam-use-gmane)
>
> to that list and see if that fixes your problem?

I tried that some time ago without success:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60992

>> Additionally to those two items, my message from September [3].
>> Unless these problems are resolved, I'd rather not put it into v5-10.
>> [3] <news:v9vf0ugya0.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/v9vf0ugya0.fsf%40marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de
>
> That message has several issues; I definitely will fix the manual by
> taking Chong's version and adding the changes for the new-style
> backend variables.  Was there anything else I missed?

I'm not aware of anything else, ATM.

> p.s. you're so well-organized, it makes me jealous.  Is there an Emacs
> rs-brain-organize-mode? :)

Not really.  It's a combination of Gcc-ing my articles to an nnml
group for each group/list (so I can find my own postings easily and
Gmane's find-thread (by MID) and search functions. :-)

Bye, Reiner.
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