From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66345 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs unicode merge changes to Gnus Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:23:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <61r6fqbyuv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871w7fvymc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tzk9zxsq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203638772 19200 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 00:06:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14835@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 22 01:06:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSLQr-0000os-Rj for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:06:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPL-0005S8-Mr; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:55 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPI-0005Rm-QY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:52 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSLPC-0004Yf-O4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:04:52 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JSLPH-0004ic-00 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:51 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1M04e9a020006; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:41 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B77F12F33; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:40 +0100 (CET) X-Face: /U7=m^"/-Dn61mAl{g9e3>\G5Tp,oEX|V)g2I1hBk\ML;)7A?6cmB-y7y?'NA^J<=oz7syB =(McAwIHgLX!.B?R3X}98d@?>CrT094KLWh]WU4gDpnL/")MS(XoQTv`Oq225uL>+;CpPXo$N5e>N> $tPd-gbB^F{gQS#1ase]XO~D4p4M"3+F-7~u]dy3I?Pb8RO*H-EFeWDUf?Rf,d]pv\Jvh2Cht!A=im yKAS2Z%Ao^;}W/qzMvMm Mail-Followup-To: "Miles Bader" , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:30:28 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.90 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-HP_X86_64_8CPU-Metrics: poseidon 1245; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id m1M04e9a020006 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66345 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 20 2008, Miles Bader wrote: > Also, what about the removal of mm-hack-charsets? I didn't notice any > replies to your query to the list about that... I replied via Gmane (and didn't Cc you, sorry), but the message didn't appear on the list. Here it is... --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- From: Reiner Steib Subject: Re: Emacs unicode merge changes to Gnus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 15 2008, Miles Bader wrote: > So, I still don't know what to do about this. Sorry, I didn't have time to look into the coding system issue yet. > [By default, I'll just commit those changes.] I think all changes beside `gnus-ding-file-coding-system' (`mm-universal-coding-system') are clear. I.e. proceed as I suggested in my first reply : - Merge "Add gbk and GB18030" changes - Revert `mm-hack-charsets' removal in Emacs CVS (and don't merge it to Gnus, of course). - `rfc2104-hexstring-to-byte-list': I'm not sure. Unless someone sees a problem now, merge it to Gnus. > Miles Bader writes: >> What about (1) using the coding: cookie, (2) change the coding system >> used to be utf-8 if possible (no binary), and utf-8-emacs otherwise. >> >> That should more or less work correctly except when people have binary >> junk, and that should be very rare (right...?). >> >> I guess it won't work for some other cases, like someone with CJK text >> who switches from Emacs 23 to Emacs 21, but ... Emacs 23 still has `emacs-mule' as coding system. Does it allow to encode everything? If so, we might use `emacs-mule' instead of `utf-8-emacs'. If not, we could recommend setting `mm-auto-save-coding-system' to `emacs-mule' for those who want to use Gnus in Emacs 23 and Emacs=A021/22. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Bye, Reiner. --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/