From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de>
Subject: User-Agent string (was: Changes committed gnus/lisp (ChangeLog gnus-msg.el gnus-sum.el))
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:23:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <v9of5jeys9.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3isvr9zci.fsf@defun.localdomain> (Jesper Harder's message of "Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:10:37 +0100")
On Tue, Feb 11 2003, Jesper Harder wrote:
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Well, thinking this over a bit, it seems that the only reason for
>> exposing the system type is to make it easier to see whether people
>> are using Windows,
> And also Mac, these days.
>> so that we can adequately, er, help. So it's a kind of debugging
>> tool.
>
> Another useful purpose is doing statistics (which is also mentioned in
> Usefor). I think "What's the percentage of Unix/Windows/Mac
> Gnus-users?" would be a reasonable question to try to answer.
>
>> I'm not quite sure that's important enough a reason to expose this
>> information.
`system-configuration' was added 2001-10-22 and I've never seen any
complaints against it (some people were surprised that i?86 doesn't
reflect their running system --> built system). I think that it's
both, quite save and useful to use `system-type' and enable this by
default. Exposing the system is helpful quite often.
To make it easier for the user to expose less information, we could
add something like this...
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defcustom gnus-user-agent 'full
"Which information should be exposed in the User-Agent header.
Can be one of the symbols `full' \(show full information\), `emacs-gnus'
\(show only Emacs and Gnus version\), `gnus' \(show only Gnus version\) or a
custom string. If you set it to a string, be sure to use a valid format, see
RFC 2616."
:group 'gnus-message
:type '(choice (item :tag "Show full info" full) ;; system-type
(item :tag "Show Gnus and Emacs versions" emacs-gnus)
(item :tag "Show only Gnus version" gnus)
(string :tag "Other")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
If we can reach consensus about this, I'll send a proper patch for
`gnus-extended-version' (BTW, the current User-Agent header is b0rked,
if `gnus-version-expose-system' is non-nil).
> But `system-type' is so generic that it doesn't reveal very much.
> E.g. my Digital Unix box is listed as just "berkeley-unix" (I doubt that
> would help an attacker much :-), and all the different ms-windows
> versions are "windows-nt".
ACK. Most other multi-platform MUAs and news readers expose the
system (or even more) by default, e.g. Netscape/Mozilla, tin, slrn,
...
Bye, Reiner.
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2003-02-07 20:05 ` Changes committed gnus/lisp (ChangeLog gnus-msg.el gnus-sum.el) Jesper Harder
2003-02-07 20:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-02-08 3:43 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-08 5:13 ` Jesper Harder
2003-02-08 20:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-02-09 3:07 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-09 3:20 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-10 8:33 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-10 8:41 ` Russ Allbery
2003-02-10 9:10 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-11 1:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-02-11 5:10 ` Jesper Harder
2003-02-11 13:23 ` Reiner Steib [this message]
2003-02-12 10:19 ` User-Agent string Vasily Korytov
2003-02-22 20:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-02-24 21:12 ` Reiner Steib
2003-02-24 22:18 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-27 14:50 ` Reiner Steib
2003-02-27 19:33 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-02-28 19:26 ` Reiner Steib
2003-03-01 23:06 ` Frank Haun
2003-03-03 16:18 ` Reiner Steib
2003-02-25 10:26 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-11 7:23 ` Changes committed gnus/lisp (ChangeLog gnus-msg.el gnus-sum.el) Vasily Korytov
2003-02-22 20:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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