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From: Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, XEmacs Beta <xemacs-beta@xemacs.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.18] gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:35:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <v9psjokljm.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17464.49751.126409.918962@parhasard.net> (Aidan Kehoe's message of "Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:14:15 +0200")

On Sun, Apr 09 2006, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

>  Ar an fichiú lá de mí Feabhra, scríobh Reiner Steib>: 
>
>  > Stephen, I don't understand this finger pointing.  It doesn't bring us
>  > any further.  If you look at Gnus' ChangeLog you won't find any
>  > changes aiming to stop supporting no-MULE XEmacs.  There are only very
>  > few XEmacs specific changes in that area, AFAICS.  Most of these were
>  > patches from Aidan WRT latin-unity (I don't know if those are
>  > responsible for Mike's problems or not).  
>
> All my Gnus code that touches on latin-unity is wrapped in this (it’s in the
> mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset-1 function):
>
> (defmacro mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset (begin end)
>   (when (featurep 'xemacs)
>     `(and (featurep 'mule) (mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset-1 ,begin ,end))))
>
> So on non-Mule systems, it won’t be touched, and there shouldn’t be
> behavioural changes from the old code, which is as it should be.

Yes, it turned out that a change in `rfc2047.el' caused it, see
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62033.

> On fr.lettres.langue.francaise, there are subject lines like this from a
> participant using Gnus v5.10.7 on XEmacs 21.4.17 (from
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=m2wte3cbiw.fsf@baba.ba ):
>
> =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3Fiso-8859-1=3Fq=3FRe=3A=5FEtymon=5F=5B=3DE9?=
>  =?us-ascii?Q?tait=5F=3A=5FRe=3A=5Fquestion=5Fd'un=5Fd=3DE9butant=5Fen=5Fd?=
>  =?us-ascii?Q?actylographie=5D=3F=3D?=
>
> Which is broken, clearly 

Yes.

| User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (darwin)

Does this XEmacs have MULE?  Maybe we should add something to the
User-Agent in `gnus-extended-version' if (featurep 'mule) is nil.

Here's another example:

,----[ <news:mzez3i0p.fsf@nemo.im.schnuerpel.net> ]
| From: Sabine 'Sani' Schulz <heitschi.bumbeitschi.bumbum@albasani.net>
| Newsgroups: de.comm.software.newsreader
| Subject: Re: =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FISO-8859-15=3FQ=3FMesNews=5Ff=3DFCr=5FAnf?=
|  =?us-ascii?Q?=3DE4nger=5Fgeeignet=3D3F=3F=3D?=
| Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:05:26 +0200
| User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.13 (windows-nt)
`----

> (it’s a double encoding which shouldn’t be happening).

Double encoding is necessary, e.g. if the user types the following
Subject:

| Subject: Ich hab' da mal 'ne Fräge: Was bedeuten denn diese Zeichen =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=F6?= ?

> However, I can’t reproduce that double encoding with 21.4.17, the latest
> XEmacs package Gnus (and xemacs -vanilla) , 

Did you try with a no-MULE XEmacs?  Could there be a difference
between an XEmacs without MULE on Windows and GNU/Linux?

> and nor can I reproduce the described problem with RFC 2047-encoded
> user names not being decoded, they work fine for me (even
> ISO-8859-15 encoded names are decoded, which is probably broken.) 

This has been fixed in Gnus CVS.  It should also be fixed in
xemacs-pkg-1_90.

BTW, will anyone sync the XEmacs Gnus package to Gnus 5.10.8 (released
today)?  Is the Position still Vacant?  See
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta/22341>.

> If someone can come up with a more detailed recipe, I’ll be happy to
> look into it.

Bye, Reiner.
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-11 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200601280127.k0S1RqD7007468@athyra.sfbay.sun.com>
     [not found] ` <87irs44xm9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2006-01-29 20:05   ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-29 22:24     ` Steve Youngs
2006-01-29 22:40       ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-30  1:16         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2006-02-17 22:13           ` Date of XEmacs' Gnus (5.10.7) package (was: [Bug: 21.4.18] gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers) Reiner Steib
2006-01-30 23:24         ` [Bug: 21.4.18] gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers Mike Kupfer
2006-01-30 23:39       ` where does package-get-info get its info from? (was: gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers) Mike Kupfer
2006-01-31  1:11         ` where does package-get-info get its info from? Steve Youngs
2006-02-18  0:34     ` [Bug: 21.4.18] gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers Mike Kupfer
2006-02-18 14:55       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2006-02-19 12:48         ` Reiner Steib
2006-02-19 22:11           ` Mike Kupfer
2006-02-19 23:22             ` Reiner Steib
2006-02-20  7:41               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-02-20  9:40                 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-02-20 11:30                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-02-20 19:20                     ` Mike Kupfer
2006-02-21 18:29                     ` Mike Kupfer
2006-02-20  8:46               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2006-02-20  9:41                 ` Reiner Steib
2006-02-20 15:52                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2006-02-20 21:26                     ` Miles Bader
2006-04-09  8:14                   ` Aidan Kehoe
2006-04-11 18:35                     ` Reiner Steib [this message]
2006-04-13 22:34                       ` Mike Kupfer
2006-04-14  8:14                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found] <17990.13620.262943.353149@parhasard.net>
2007-05-13  9:20 ` Gnus: Autoloads for parse-time.el variables (was: [PATCH] package building problems.) Reiner Steib
2007-05-13 12:45   ` Aidan Kehoe
2007-05-14 17:21   ` Mike Kupfer
     [not found] <m33awph096.fsf@Overgaard.mail.dk>
     [not found] ` <878x6g6yz7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2007-10-06 16:09   ` [Bug: 21.5-b28] XEmacs/gnus refuses to open newsgroup with identical messages Reiner Steib
2007-10-07 13:47     ` Thomas Overgaard
2007-10-09 21:13     ` gnus 5.10.8 for XEmacs (was [Bug: 21.5-b28] XEmacs/gnus refuses to open newsgroup with identical messages) Mike Kupfer

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