From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61982 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Gnus compatibility with Emacs 23 (unicode branch) (was: gnus doesn't encode non-ascii attachment filenames) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bqxbwxoq.fsf@emacsfans.org> <87irriras8.fsf@emacsfans.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139916035 32286 80.91.229.2 (14 Feb 2006 11:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10509@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Feb 14 12:20:32 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8yEA-0000iC-D7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:20:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1F8yE1-0001z7-00; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:20:05 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1F8y5E-0001z1-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:11:00 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8y58-0006OK-QE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:10:59 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.1]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1F8y53-0003Ft-00 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:10:49 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1EBAibt001655; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:10:44 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from viandante.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BE6311102; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:10:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 13502 invoked by uid 170); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:59:21 -0000 Original-To: Miles Bader Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, Miles Bader , Kenichi Handa X-Face: 'bg&jY[8V'W&:=~6w"|>}#4/T;w~36ei4NNMyKRR.a$n=$|sWFPF1y]a\>6kc\*#GN]UDM| Ywv,vbL^XF1nIp\:F=$Ei2o&mEe:%N~,:3]vtQ~s9u$9izmX$IF@VgGl7/,^dbuM<3|AO2}.%|%?kZ 2Y=@\U!~cll^=8Z9ihKq%wmUe1Ky(#kl3T'>Qk0Ia3mCBsTk?E(,X User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-servers-Metrics: gemini 1049; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61982 gmane.emacs.devel:50521 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 14 2006, Miles Bader wrote: > Kenichi Handa writes: >> For Emacs 23, we can have a better/simpler fix. But, could someone >> tell me the maintenance policy of Gnus codes? Should we modify codes >> in cvs HEAD so that it works also with emacs-unicode-2 (perhaps with >> version check here and there)? (Or feature check, if possible.) But please don't break compatibility with Emacs 21 and Emacs 20.7 [1]. >> Or, should we directly modify codes in cvs emacs-unicode-2? > > It seems to me better keep the code in both branches the same, if > possible. > > Changes to Emacs 22 will be propagated to Gnus 5.10 and the Gnus > development branch (No Gnus); as people may wish to use the Gnus > development branch with Emacs 23, it would be a good thing to avoid > changes which are only in the Emacs 23 sources. I agree. AFAICS, Dave Love already installed some changes to make Gnus work with emacs-unicode-2 (often referred as "Emacs 22" [2] in code comments). But there are probably also some open issues: E.g. "Wrong for Emacs 23" in `message-fix-before-sending'. Bye, Reiner. [1] We are currently discussing if we should drop Emacs 20.7 compatibility also for the stable branch (Gnus 5.10, v5-10) as we have already done for the development version of Gnus (No Gnus). [2] We should probably check out the before-renaming-to-emacs-22 version, look for strings like "Emacs 22" and replace the comments with "Emacs 23 (unicode)" -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/