From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59523 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Using versions instead of XEmacs codenames in User-Agent (was: [PATCH] SXEmacs User-Agent string) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:41:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1105019682 26454 80.91.229.6 (6 Jan 2005 13:54:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8063@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jan 06 14:54:27 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CmY5q-0004dt-00 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:54:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CmXzq-0003Zp-00; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:48:14 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CmXzh-0003Zh-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:48:05 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CmXzb-0002Fu-A4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:47:59 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.1] helo=mail-new.rz.uni-ulm.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CmXzW-0004jm-00 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:47:54 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j06Dlmal025032 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:47:48 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from me (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E32C1006C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:47:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 19109 invoked by uid 170); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 13:41:52 -0000 Original-To: Ding List X-Face: 1;h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB;kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm;%Od (Steve Youngs's message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:49:07 +1000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: gemini 1166; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59523 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59523 On Thu, Jan 06 2005, Steve Youngs wrote: [ SXEmacs User-Agent string ] > Does anybody have any objections to me committing this? I'll wait a > couple of days before committing, just in case. [ No objection from my side, just a closely related suggestion. ] The XEmacs codenames (Rational FORTRAN, Corporate Culture, Security Through Obscurity, ...) lead to very long User-Agent headers, that even are folded by Gnus: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Corporate Culture, berkeley-unix) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, windows-nt) I would propose to get rid of the codenames and use the full version, say 21.4.15 or 21.4.16 instead. Beside better readability, the full version is better for people who are not familiar with the codenames. I have a patch around for this around (but not here, being offline). The result would look like this: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4.aa (berkeley-unix) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4.bb (berkeley-unix) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4.cc (windows-nt) (I use the placeholders "aa", "bb", "cc" because I can't recall to which XEmacs versions the codenames correspond.) Unless there are objections against my suggestion, I'll install it in the stable branch and in the trunk. Steve, I'd like to ask you to wait for my patch and then also use full version numbers instead of codenames for SXEmacs. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/