From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65106 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: etc/refcards/ and new-style backquotes Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:16:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188515883 21701 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2007 23:18:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen" , "Ding List" To: "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13617@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 31 01:18:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IQtGq-0008A8-W4 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:17:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IQtFv-0005zD-Nq; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:16:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IQtFu-0005yu-8s for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IQtFp-0004Zt-Fx for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1IQtFo-0005Kw-00; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:16:48 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7UNGiUG003270; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:16:44 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3EE12C5C; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:16:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: mtjf/D:es1T0wHO:&CJ'ZXe"l;3C--rw\z!{`eFwL){|]RpI+4{u25L=5C /0>KuGeTsk<~<&NE-AKV1560e!+RJeyWmSskkrJm?[vUV#66{T_m|Ae<||Ku#Mk5`y&O`n~z2;n8eP J5#2h@2eQgV@E70IY_0WlEx!"&giy{+\%h1LJox$zv@/l%ZmU4^tZA>xQpnkUBVC5.jpg#0'(+2?Rs )NAr:>3<=WxHE$ktbLysDIM5TbmHu*3, "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen" , "Ding List" In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:25:33 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-CTc-dcc2-Metrics: poseidon 1031; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65106 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 30 2007, Miles Bader wrote: > [The gnus relevant merges I do are: > > gnus-5.10 -> emacs-rel-22 > emacs-trunk -> gnus-5.10 > gnus-5.10 -> gnus-trunk > emacs-rel-22 -> emacs-trunk > ] > > So... I suppose that it would be better to only sync changes from the > emacs-rel-22 emacs branch to the gnus-5.10 branch? Or alternatively, > it could be decided that the gnus-5.10 branch should be linked with > the emacs trunk instead of the rel-22 branch. [I _tentatively_ favor > the latter, as it's always seemed to me that the changes to the 5.10 > branch are sometimes a wee bit aggressive considering it's a release > branch.] Do you have specific changes in mind? I don't recall that we introduced any regressions or other problems. I don't understand your argument here. As the Emacs trunk is open for any changes now, it seems quite dangerous to me to sync changes from Emacs trunk to gnus-5.10, isn't it? > If it's decided to keep the 5.10 branch associated with the emacs > rel-22 branch, I'd favor reverting the changes mentioned previously > which aren't on the emacs rel-22 branch. > > However if that's decided, there will be no merge channel from the > emacs trunk to gnus, which is not good I think. In that case, I could > start merging from the emacs-trunk to the gnus-trunk ... but with > multiple merge channels between emacs and gnus, things are starting to > get a bit hairy.... I'm not sure how well it would work out in > practice. Isn't the latter what we discussed in the thread "Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories"? (cf. , when Gmane is back again) IMHO, we should have: - gnus-5.10 <-> emacs-rel-22 Because both should contain only bugfixes for 5.10.*/5.11. - gnus-trunk <-> emacs-trunk To get more and early testing on No Gnus. - gnus-5.10 -> gnus-trunk and/or emacs-rel-22 -> emacs-trunk To ensure bug fixes also go into the development series. "and/or", because both mostly do the same, if we have the two other channels in place. Could you explain what kind of (new) problems you'd expect in this scenario? Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/