From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40479 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [RFC] nnmbox and first-time users Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:17:56 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176023 1119 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:53:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gnus Beta Testers Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14512 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 09:18:54 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 09:18:54 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166q0L-0002GF-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:18:45 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:18:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA02866 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:18:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 2001 09:18:29 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14192 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 09:18:29 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 09:18:29 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id fAM9I2h10786; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:18:02 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id KAA23305; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:17:57 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id CC59D201B; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:17:56 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Christoph Conrad In-Reply-To: (Christoph Conrad's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:08:25 +0100") Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40479 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40479 Christoph Conrad writes: > > In fact I think that slowly the time might have come to change a > > lot of important variables in an incompatible manner. That will > > at least show the users that something is wrong, and so they can > > correct it. > > If that is done this change should be documented in a VERY explicit > manner accompanied by a good "transition description". Yes. The Gnus startup code should have some facility to detect the situation, alert the user to it, and DTRT. Hm. Coming to think of it, maybe it is better not to change the default directories, but rather to have Gnus perform some sanity checks. So when Gnus discovers that the user has two servers pointing to the same directory, Gnus would then barf. Ah. We discussed about this a while ago. Sorry, I completely forgot. Yes, I think the sanity check approach is much better. kai -- Simplification good! Oversimplification bad! (Larry Wall)