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On 28 Feb 2001, Florian Weimer wrote:

> There's already such a service built into recent versions of INN:
> 
> | 200 cert.uni-stuttgart.de InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.3.0 ready
> | (posting ok).  post 340 Ok, recommended ID
> | <97j88b$o6$1@hornet.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
> 
> For mail, there never was a uniqueness constraint on message IDs.

The problem is that Gnus needs to know the msg id before sending, so
that the mail and news and Gcc copies can all have the same msg id.

Hm.

Of course, if posting and mailing, it could try to post, first.  Hm.

kai
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