From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33725 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Disable generation of "Sender: " by default. Date: 17 Dec 2000 20:33:34 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169776 26596 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:09:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429C1D049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:34:26 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB28565; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:34:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:33:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05483 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:33:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4518BD049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:33:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id UAA24762; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:33:35 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id UAA12165; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:33:34 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id UAA11981; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:33:34 +0100 Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat X-Face: /B3twq_DELA4]7alR?%xv(/f1N;bi:NN=UlA=(1a"pKte&5/Y/9*z&8q[P}+}YgJX_9*}k_ 0E|EJBC~yEok<#VOw:9GQWq1-;PCR-hd;3|Vk]~"|EM{Q5ir5nr!HzZ,W4\k5G|QWHw45gQ*tWydTR , Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.94 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33725 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33725 On 17 Dec 2000, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > They are not even vaguely close to each other. My opinion is that > RFC 1036's Sender is badly broken, because it utterly fails to > accomplish its goal. RFC 822's Sender does exactly what it is > intended to do, no more, no less. But one of the examples given in RFC 1036 is exactly the same as the example given in RFC 822! /---- | For example, if John Smith is visiting CCA and wishes to post a | message to the network, using friend Sarah Jones' account, the | message might read: | | From: smith@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Smith) | Sender: jones@cca.COM (Sarah Jones) \---- This is just like the secretary example in RFC 822. Hence, there is at least some overlap between the intentions of the Sender header. (The RFC 1036 Sender header can be used in more situations, of course.) Hm. Oh, RFC 822 kinda assumes that the secretary was typing the message, too, whereas here, it's clear that Sarah is NOT typing the message. Hm. But that's not the big deal, is it? kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)