[off-topic] Change font used by W3

[off-topic] Change font used by W3

[Kai Großjohann]

Feel free to tell me to piss off because of this message being
off-topic.  But where should I pee?  (I don't dare post this to the
Emacs developers, nor gnu.emacs.help...)

I'm a happy user of Emacs 21, but the default text font used by W3 is
awful.  Here's what I get when doing M-x list-text-properties-at RET
on an inconspicuous piece of text in a simple HTML page:

/----
| Text properties at 5:
| 
| duplicable           t
| rear-nonsticky       nil
| front-sticky         t
| end-open             nil
| start-open           nil
| html-stack           ((p) (bodytext) (body) (html) (*document))
| face                 (w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000)
\----

And this is what describe-face has to say on w3-style-face-00000:

/----
|          Family: *
|           Width: unspecified
|          Height: unspecified
|          Weight: normal
|           Slant: unspecified
|      Foreground: unspecified
|      Background: unspecified
|       Underline: nil
|        Overline: unspecified
|  Strike-through: unspecified
|             Box: unspecified
|         Inverse: unspecified
|         Stipple: unspecified
| Font or fontset: nil
| 
| Documentation:
| 
| not documented as a face.
| 
| You can customize this face.
\----

I have the following X ressources for Emacs fonts:

/----
| $ ( xrdb -query ; appres Emacs ; appres emacs ) | grep -i 'emacs.*font'
| Emacs*font:     -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1
| Emacs.default.attributeFont:    -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1
| Emacs.pane.menubar.font:        -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-72-72-m-60-iso8859-1
| Emacs.menu*.font:       -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-72-72-m-60-iso8859-1
| Emacs.menu*font:        -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-72-72-m-60-iso8859-1
| Emacs.pane.menubar.font:        -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-72-72-m-60-iso8859-1
| Emacs.default.attributeFont:    -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1
| Emacs*font:     -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1
\----

Any other information that I could provide?

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: [off-topic] Change font used by W3

[William M. Perry]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Feel free to tell me to piss off because of this message being off-topic.
> But where should I pee?  (I don't dare post this to the Emacs developers,
> nor gnu.emacs.help...)

Heh, I can't even get the current source code for Emacs 21 to work at all.
It barfs immediately with a wrong-type-argument listp "font-name" and
aborts.  *sigh*

> I'm a happy user of Emacs 21, but the default text font used by W3 is
> awful.  Here's what I get when doing M-x list-text-properties-at RET on
> an inconspicuous piece of text in a simple HTML page:

Are you using the CVS versions of Emacs/W3?  That has better support for
Emacs 21 than 4.0.3[46].

-Bill P.

Re: [off-topic] Change font used by W3

[Kai Großjohann]

wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) writes:

> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> 
> > Feel free to tell me to piss off because of this message being off-topic.
> > But where should I pee?  (I don't dare post this to the Emacs developers,
> > nor gnu.emacs.help...)
> 
> Heh, I can't even get the current source code for Emacs 21 to work at all.
> It barfs immediately with a wrong-type-argument listp "font-name" and
> aborts.  *sigh*

I've got an end-of-June snapshot -- don't have an account on the GNU
machines yet.

> > I'm a happy user of Emacs 21, but the default text font used by W3 is
> > awful.  Here's what I get when doing M-x list-text-properties-at RET on
> > an inconspicuous piece of text in a simple HTML page:
> 
> Are you using the CVS versions of Emacs/W3?  That has better support for
> Emacs 21 than 4.0.3[46].

Okay, I will get the CVS version.  Thanks for the hint.

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: [off-topic] Change font used by W3

[Harry Putnam]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Feel free to tell me to piss off because of this message being
> off-topic.  But where should I pee?  (I don't dare post this to the
> Emacs developers, nor gnu.emacs.help...)


The lines below in .gnus  used to cure w3 ugliness trauma. 
 (setq w3-user-fonts-take-precedence t)
 (setq w3-user-colors-take-precedence t)

Is this no longer true in emacs-21?

Re: [off-topic] Change font used by W3

[Kai Großjohann]

On 14 Jul 2000, Harry Putnam wrote:

> The lines below in .gnus  used to cure w3 ugliness trauma. 
> Is this no longer true in emacs-21?

Apparently not.  Or I tried the wrong thing.  W3 even uses a strange
font for HTML files which don't specify a font at all.

The author has advised me to try a newer version.  Must get some round
tuits. 

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.