From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23481 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances [renumbering] Date: 23 Jun 1999 09:44:56 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161205 2202 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:46:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01077 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAB13190; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:45:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22510 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:46:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01071 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de (petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.161]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id JAA03278 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:44:58 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de id JAA28803; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:44:57 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Jaap-Henk Hoepman's message of "23 Jun 1999 09:00:20 +0200" Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) Emacs/20.3.10 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23481 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23481 Jaap-Henk Hoepman writes: > Actually there is another quite fundamental difference between > mail and news (which makes using gnus - by origin a news reader- > harder to configure to read mail ): > news is stored somewhere else: it's volatile; if you want > to keep it you have to do something > mail is stored locally by you: it's permanent; if you want > to delete it you have to do something > This is how most newsreaders and mail programs work; this is also > what people expect them to do. Therefore transport class (or at > least `storage class') does matter. This fundamental difference is quite blurred with Gnus. You can even set it up such that the "in news, you have to do something to keep it, in mail, you have to do something to delete it" is reversed! And with IMAP, mail isn't stored locally. kai -- Life is hard and then you die.