* Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
@ 2000-09-23 17:25 Arcady Genkin
2000-09-23 17:30 ` Karl Kleinpaste
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From: Arcady Genkin @ 2000-09-23 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
I know this is a bit of a contradiction, but I want gnus to never
expire messages in my private mail group, even if marked as
expirable. Setting (expiry-wait quote never) in group parameters
doesn't seem to do the trick.
Here's the situation. I'm used to unmark ticked messages in most of
my groups by pressing `E', because I want them to expire. Sometimes,
in my private group, I unmark ticked message by pressing `E' instead
of `d' (contrary to my intention). This is my own mistake, I know,
but is there a way to set a self-guard against this for a given group?
I've lost more than one important messages this way. ;^(
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Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-23 17:25 Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages Arcady Genkin
@ 2000-09-23 17:30 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-09-23 23:18 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-24 20:01 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Karl Kleinpaste @ 2000-09-23 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Try modifying gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-23 17:25 Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages Arcady Genkin
2000-09-23 17:30 ` Karl Kleinpaste
@ 2000-09-23 23:18 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-24 19:06 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-24 20:01 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-09-23 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 23 Sep 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> I know this is a bit of a contradiction, but I want gnus to never
> expire messages in my private mail group, even if marked as
> expirable. Setting (expiry-wait quote never) in group parameters
> doesn't seem to do the trick.
Does it work to use (expiry-wait never) rather than (expiry-wait quote never)?
kai
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I like BOTH kinds of music.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-23 23:18 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-09-24 19:06 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-24 20:26 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Arcady Genkin @ 2000-09-24 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Groъjohann) writes:
> On 23 Sep 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
>
> > I know this is a bit of a contradiction, but I want gnus to never
> > expire messages in my private mail group, even if marked as
> > expirable. Setting (expiry-wait quote never) in group parameters
> > doesn't seem to do the trick.
>
> Does it work to use (expiry-wait never) rather than (expiry-wait
> quote never)?
No, it doesn't. I just tested and Gnus still expired a message from
June which I marked `E'.
This is happening in an nnimap group, in case this is relevant.
IIRC, `never' is a special symbol, and must be quoted, no?
Any other ideas?
--
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-23 17:25 Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages Arcady Genkin
2000-09-23 17:30 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-09-23 23:18 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-09-24 20:01 ` Simon Josefsson
2000-09-25 0:14 ` Arcady Genkin
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2000-09-24 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> I know this is a bit of a contradiction, but I want gnus to never
> expire messages in my private mail group, even if marked as
> expirable. Setting (expiry-wait quote never) in group parameters
> doesn't seem to do the trick.
Make sure your group parameter is '(expiry-wait . never) and not
'(expiry-wait never).
The latter does not work, and `nnmail-expiry-wait' will fall back on
it's default value (7, or whatever), thus expiring your mail.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-24 19:06 ` Arcady Genkin
@ 2000-09-24 20:26 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-09-24 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 24 Sep 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> IIRC, `never' is a special symbol, and must be quoted, no?
Well, err. The Lisp expression you get to edit after `G p' is not
evaled. So it is not necessary to quote anything.
kai
--
I like BOTH kinds of music.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-24 20:01 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2000-09-25 0:14 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-25 1:08 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Arcady Genkin @ 2000-09-25 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> writes:
> Make sure your group parameter is '(expiry-wait . never) and not
> '(expiry-wait never).
Oh, thanks! Now this did it.
Funny, I tried (expiry-wait . 'never) first, which got automatically
translated into (expiry-wait quote never). Then I tried Kai's
suggestion (expiry-wait never), which didn't work...
I think that the docs are a bit unclear on this one.
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Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 0:14 ` Arcady Genkin
@ 2000-09-25 1:08 ` Harry Putnam
2000-09-25 4:17 ` Arcady Genkin
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-09-25 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> writes:
>
> > Make sure your group parameter is '(expiry-wait . never) and not
> > '(expiry-wait never).
>
> Oh, thanks! Now this did it.
>
> Funny, I tried (expiry-wait . 'never) first, which got automatically
> translated into (expiry-wait quote never). Then I tried Kai's
> suggestion (expiry-wait never), which didn't work...
There is a sure fire way to get it right. Use the customize buffer
once then look at the results in `G p'. You'll know from then on what
the exact syntax is.
So press `G c' on the group in quesiton and review the items in that buffer.
Find the expire related item and look at the choices.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 1:08 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-09-25 4:17 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-25 4:47 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Arcady Genkin @ 2000-09-25 4:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> There is a sure fire way to get it right. Use the customize buffer
> once then look at the results in `G p'. You'll know from then on
> what the exact syntax is.
`G c' doesn't work (for me?) for nnimap groups, because of some
uuvalidity issue (this was discussed before on this list).
--
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 4:17 ` Arcady Genkin
@ 2000-09-25 4:47 ` Harry Putnam
2000-09-25 10:13 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-25 12:54 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-09-25 4:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > There is a sure fire way to get it right. Use the customize buffer
> > once then look at the results in `G p'. You'll know from then on
> > what the exact syntax is.
>
> `G c' doesn't work (for me?) for nnimap groups, because of some
> uuvalidity issue (this was discussed before on this list).
You can still learn exact syntax by using G c on non-nnimap group.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 4:17 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-25 4:47 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-09-25 10:13 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-25 12:54 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-09-25 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 25 Sep 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> `G c' doesn't work (for me?) for nnimap groups, because of some
> uuvalidity issue (this was discussed before on this list).
Hm? I thought this has been solved? But maybe after 5.8.7 came out.
kai
--
I like BOTH kinds of music.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 4:17 ` Arcady Genkin
2000-09-25 4:47 ` Harry Putnam
2000-09-25 10:13 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-09-25 12:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2000-09-25 22:57 ` Arcady Genkin
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2000-09-25 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> `G c' doesn't work (for me?) for nnimap groups, because of some
> uuvalidity issue (this was discussed before on this list).
Do you have a backtrace or something?
The problem that was discussed here that I could reproduce was fixed
for 5.8.7, but perhaps there was more issues.
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* Re: Tell gnus to never ever expire even expirable messages
2000-09-25 12:54 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2000-09-25 22:57 ` Arcady Genkin
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From: Arcady Genkin @ 2000-09-25 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> writes:
> > `G c' doesn't work (for me?) for nnimap groups, because of some
> > uuvalidity issue (this was discussed before on this list).
>
> Do you have a backtrace or something?
>
> The problem that was discussed here that I could reproduce was fixed
> for 5.8.7, but perhaps there was more issues.
I was using a pretty old CVS snapshot of 5.8.7. I upgraded and `G c'
works on nnimap groups now.
Thanks a lot and sorry for the noise; I didn't know this was fixed,
and didn't want to upgrade because that snapshot has been so stable
for me.
--
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.
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