From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37618 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap - not quite there yet? Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:11:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172999 14778 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:03:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding-list Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 6250 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 22:12:40 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 22:12:40 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id AAA09668; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:11:59 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id AAA01635; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:11:58 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA04839; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:11:58 +0200 Original-To: Joe Casadonte In-Reply-To: (Joe Casadonte's message of "08 Aug 2001 16:29:29 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.105 Original-Lines: 64 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37618 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37618 Joe Casadonte writes: > 1) Despite everything I've tried, mostly with levels, I cannot avoid > having all accounts logged into at Gnus startup. I only want two > or three accounts checked, and I'll check the others once every > couple of days. Perhaps I need to define the virtual servers but > make them inactive somehow, and then manually activate them from > the server buffer? Aside from not knowing how to do that off-hand, > it seems a bit of a PITA. Hm. I've got a foreign nntp server that I'm not checking, and that works. Maybe Gnus is trying to look for new groups on the nnimap servers? You could try to make them foreign servers, rather than secondary. A foreign server can be created via the server buffer, accessible via ^ from the Group buffer. Secondary servers are secondary because they're listed in gnus-secondary-select-methods. Maybe you can create a server pointing to one of the existing accounts and then you can see if you can prevent Gnus from checking that server on startup. > 2) Again, despite attempts to change the behavior (mostly with levels) > I cannot avoid having nnimap check every folder when I do a > gnus-group-get-new-news. The folders don't /activate/, mind you, but > I have to sit thru every one of them being checked. Did you kill the unwanted groups (with C-k)? Not sure whether the previous suggestion works for this one, too. > 3) For each virtual IMAP server, an imap process is launched and kept > hanging around. With 9 virtual servers, that's just too much. It > would be much better if there was one IMAP process that kept > flipping back and forth. Yeah, there's a lag with login and all, > but I'd rather have that then multiple connections hanging around > doing nothing. One solution is to have a pool of IMAP connections, > the limit to which could be configurable (1 for me, N for others). Despite them thingies being listed in M-x list-processes RET, they're just network connections. No extra process needed for them. (Unless you connect to them via a shell command.) Doing what you want would require a serious rewrite of the infrastructure. > 4) As has been mentioned elsewhere in recent threads, nnimap (and all > of Gnus for that matter) is not terribly fault tolerant. If a > server connection goes down, the connection needs to be severed > manually before it can be reconnected. Again, this is more of a > general Gnus issue, I think, but nnimap seems a bit more stubborn > then nntp. Believe it or not, I never have those problems. When the connection goes down for some reason, Gnus brings it back up. Other than a slight delay, I don't notice anything. Do you use a shell command to access your IMAP servers (ssh, say)? That might be more problematic. kai -- ~/.signature: No such file or directory