From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28113 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: de .* and gnus-group-posting-charset-alist Date: 11 Dec 1999 21:20:24 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165019 28185 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:50:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03464 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:21:25 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB29920; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:21:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:21:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29477 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:21:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03459 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:20:56 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id VAA12410; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:20:24 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id VAA13676; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:20:24 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id VAA04661; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:20:24 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de: grossjoh set sender to Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE using -f Original-To: Karl EICHWALDER In-Reply-To: Karl EICHWALDER's message of "07 Dec 1999 21:45:46 +0100" Original-Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by sclp3.sclp.com id PAA03464 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28113 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28113 Karl EICHWALDER writes: > A discussion at de.comp.gnu showed that following change would be > welcome; I don't know what the reason was to set it di "nil" for the de > hierarchy? I discussed with the guys in de.comm.software.newsreader, and they explained to me that Latin 1 chars in headers must be escaped -- I noticed this because I have a Latin 1 char in my name, and this character was posted as-is rather than the following: Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?= The people over there also said that it is okay to have Latin 1 characters in the body of a posting, provided the MIME headers are right. But there are no MIME headers which apply to the header of a posting, hence it is necessary to always encode non-ASCII characters in headers. So, if you tell Gnus to post Latin 1 characters as-is in de.ALL, people who post in de.comm.software.newsreader will be flamed :-/ I think we have the following options: * Tell Gnus to always encoding Latin 1 chars in de.ALL. This gives us correct postings with possibly superfluous encoding. * Tell Gnus to never encode Latin 1 chars in de.ALL. This gives problems for people with Latin 1 characters in their name. * Like previous, but forbid use of non-ASCII characters in headers. I think the second option is out of the question, and I don't like the last option, either. My name is Großjohann and not Grossjohann! What do you think? kai -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.