disabling smiley

disabling smiley

[Nick Papadonis]

How do I disable smily faces in gnus?  I looked through
customize->gnus->visual, but there didn't seem an option for this.

Any ideas?  Thanks.

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Re: disabling smiley

[Kai Großjohann]

On 17 May 2001, Nick Papadonis wrote:

> How do I disable smily faces in gnus?  I looked through
> customize->gnus->visual, but there didn't seem an option for this.

Recent versions have a gnus-treat- variable for this.  Alas, I don't
know where to find them in the Customize interface.  But you can use
`Customize Apropos' to find them.

kai
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Re: disabling smiley

[Nick Papadonis]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> On 17 May 2001, Nick Papadonis wrote:
> 
> > How do I disable smily faces in gnus?  I looked through
> > customize->gnus->visual, but there didn't seem an option for this.
> 
> Recent versions have a gnus-treat- variable for this.  Alas, I don't
> know where to find them in the Customize interface.  But you can use
> `Customize Apropos' to find them.
> 

Shouldn't this be an option?  Smilies get annoying in emails with code
patches.

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Re: disabling smiley

[Kai Großjohann]

On 17 May 2001, Nick Papadonis wrote:

> Shouldn't this be an option?  Smilies get annoying in emails with
> code patches.

Shouldn't what be an option?  The variable gnus-treat-display-smileys
_is_ an option.  You can customize it.

Or are you talking about the default value?  Well, maybe that should
be set to nil.  Another possibility is to set the regexp to the
`nosey' regexp (only grok smilies with noses).

kai
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Re: disabling smiley

[Alexandre Oliva]

On May 17, 2001, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> Another possibility is to set the regexp to the `nosey' regexp (only
> grok smilies with noses).

That would help a lot, indeed.  Perhaps this should also be
customizable?  Say, if gnus-treat-display-smiles is a symbol, it would
get the alist from that symbol, or from the symbol
smile-<gnus-treat-display-smiles>-regexp-alist.

BTW, I've noticed the alists in Oort Gnus v0.02 reference a number of
images I (and it) can't find in the installation directory.  Has this
been fixed yet?

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Re: disabling smiley

[Kai Großjohann]

On 17 May 2001, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> BTW, I've noticed the alists in Oort Gnus v0.02 reference a number
> of images I (and it) can't find in the installation directory.  Has
> this been fixed yet?

Works for me, but I'm running Gnus from the source directory.  Dunno
how XEmacs handles this, but I'd guess if you also run Gnus from the
source directory, it should work.

Are you compiling Gnus from the sources, or are you using an XEmacs
package?  If the latter, the package might be b0rked.

kai
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Re: disabling smiley

[Alexandre Oliva]

On May 18, 2001, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> Are you compiling Gnus from the sources, or are you using an XEmacs
> package?

>From the sources.  The problem is that the only installed bitmaps in
smiley-data-directory are:

% ls /n/gnu/xemacs-21.1.14/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/ognus-0.02/etc/smilies/
frown.pbm  smile.pbm  wry.pbm


And, in fact, these appear to be the only smileys in the current CVS
tree too.  Nevertheless, smiley.el refers to a number of other .xbm
files, and doesn't refer at all to the ones in etc/smilies.  Looks
like whoever upgraded lisp/smilies.el forgot to import the
corresponding images, so it is totally broken now, unless I point
smiley-data-directory to the directory that comes with XEmacs' smiley
package, which I'd rather not have to do.  If gnus comes with
smilies.el, it should also come with the corresponding images, right?

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Re: disabling smiley

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Alexandre Oliva <oliva@lsd.ic.unicamp.br> writes:
> From the sources.  The problem is that the only installed bitmaps in
> smiley-data-directory are:

> % ls /n/gnu/xemacs-21.1.14/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/ognus-0.02/etc/smilies/
> frown.pbm  smile.pbm  wry.pbm

> And, in fact, these appear to be the only smileys in the current CVS
> tree too.  Nevertheless, smiley.el refers to a number of other .xbm
> files, and doesn't refer at all to the ones in etc/smilies.

[1098] [21:50:58] cinnamon:~> ls /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/smilies
./                FaceHappy.xpm     FaceStraight.xpm  WideFaceAse1.xbm
../               FaceIronic.xpm    FaceTalking.xpm   WideFaceAse2.xbm
FaceAngry.xpm     FaceKOed.xpm      FaceTasty.xpm     WideFaceAse3.xbm
FaceDevilish.xpm  FaceNyah.xpm      FaceWinking.xpm   WideFaceSmile.xbm
FaceGoofy.xpm     FaceSad.xpm       FaceWry.xpm       WideFaceWeep.xbm
FaceGrinning.xpm  FaceStartled.xpm  FaceYukky.xpm

(Installed from the sumo tarballs.)

Re: disabling smiley

[Kai Großjohann]

On 18 May 2001, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> If gnus comes with smilies.el, it should also come with the
> corresponding images, right?

For XEmacs, there is the `etc' tarball.  etc-0.27.tar.gz or so on
ftp.gnus.org.  Maybe Lars didn't want the Emacs users to have files
they don't need anyway (look at the file date, this was pre Emacs 21).

kai
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Re: disabling smiley

[Alexandre Oliva]

On May 18, 2001, Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> wrote:

> [1098] [21:50:58] cinnamon:~> ls /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/smilies
[snip]
> (Installed from the sumo tarballs.)

Yep, but that doesn't make gnus' installation from sources work.

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Re: disabling smiley

[Alexandre Oliva]

On May 18, 2001, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> On 18 May 2001, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> If gnus comes with smilies.el, it should also come with the
>> corresponding images, right?

> For XEmacs, there is the `etc' tarball.  etc-0.27.tar.gz or so on
> ftp.gnus.org.  Maybe Lars didn't want the Emacs users to have files
> they don't need anyway (look at the file date, this was pre Emacs 21).

Yeah.  Probably time to change this :-)

Anyway, the CVS tree doesn't contain the same smilies that etc does.
Shouldn't it?

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Re: disabling smiley

[Kai Großjohann]

On 18 May 2001, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> Anyway, the CVS tree doesn't contain the same smilies that etc does.
> Shouldn't it?

These days, I think the smileys should be the same.  If XEmacs and
Emacs want different file formats, maybe some magic could be added to
convert them, depending on the `--with-emacs=foo' argument.

kai
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