From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/29719 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai=?iso-8859-1?q?_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Probable bug in nnimap Date: 06 Apr 2000 17:31:37 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035166344 4337 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:12:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CC6D051E for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB22538; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:31:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22318 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:31:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A045DD051E for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id RAA14906; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:31:37 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id RAA27747; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:31:37 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id RAA03005; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:31:37 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de: grossjoh set sender to Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE using -f Original-To: Jeff Senn In-Reply-To: Jeff Senn's message of "06 Apr 2000 09:43:48 -0400" Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) Emacs/20.6 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29719 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29719 Jeff Senn writes: > On a more philosophical note: it will be nice when(if?) this > dependence on a linear, numeric primary key for article identity goes > away in gnus... Indeed gnus started life as a nntp-news reader, but I > don't even use it for that anymore... email (in various flavors) and > the web-group stuff is far more useful day-to-day... Yes, it would be useful to think about an ADT `article number' (though number is the wrong word, didn't want to use id lest there be confusion with message id). What operations does one need on that ADT? Gnus could then be changed to use that ADT and then the ADT could evolve to accomodate new backends. It seems that backends like nnslashdot and nnweb use klugy workarounds for the existing article number requirement. kai -- ~/.signature: No such file or directory