From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27756 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: CVS: Symbol's function definition is void: ignore-errors Date: 06 Dec 1999 00:11:38 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <3153296531820047@birk150.studby.uio.no> <82bkll$j5d$1@quimby.gnus.org> <9t9g0xi4lf6.fsf@mraz.iskon.hr> <9t9aenqa3tt.fsf@mraz.iskon.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164724 26181 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:45:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28352 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:12:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAB14063; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:12:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 05 Dec 1999 17:12:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28492 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:12:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28344 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:12:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id AAA13679 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:11:39 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id AAA08274; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:11:38 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id AAA10921; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:11:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de: grossjoh set sender to Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "04 Dec 1999 20:58:14 +0100" Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4.93 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by sclp3.sclp.com id SAA28352 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27756 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27756 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think it's mainly a name-pollution thing for RMS. Having > `delete-duplicates' in the namespace will make people believe that's a > proper Emacs function and stuff. Maybe he would agree to having a cl-safe package which contains all the CL functions, but with different names cl-foo rather than foo? I have communicated with somebody about this before,¹ and that person has asked RMS, and it appears that RMS is somehow opposed to CL on a non-rational basis. After all, Scheme (or Guile) is supposed to become the standard GNU extension language... And it is not clear that anything would really be gained by lots of people using CL-isms where they should have been using Guile-isms, if Emacs Lisp ever gets transferred to Guile. But that's only hearsay and rumor and vague memory and all that. For the record, I think that it is okay for somebody to not /like/ something for irrational reasons. Happens to all of us, I think. Some people try to rationalize (is that the right word?), but if you admit it, it's okay... kai ¹ Sorry that I forgot your name :-/ -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.