From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45782 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: "From " -> ">From " in imap mail-source avoidable? Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:10:41 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87eldulg3j.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027433517 20820 127.0.0.1 (23 Jul 2002 14:11:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17X0OJ-0005Ph-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:11:55 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17X0O0-0002eM-00; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:11:36 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21157 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:11:47 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 396 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2002 14:11:17 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 391 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2002 14:11:16 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2002 14:11:16 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g6NEAkb12641; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:10:46 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id QAA19713; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:10:41 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id 4F5A43B221; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Josh Huber Mail-Followup-To: Josh Huber , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87eldulg3j.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> (Josh Huber's message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:38:08 -0400") Original-Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45782 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45782 Josh Huber writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > >> But I don't understand why it would be a problem to write maildir >> format, instead, if nnmail-process-maildir-mail-format groks that. > > Actually, what I don't get is why when you're using a maildir > mail-source Gnus bothers to copy it to another spool file at all. > Couldn't Gnus read the messages from the Maildir directly? (doesn't > need to be locked, etc) Well, Gnus also comes with nnmaildir, which does what you want. So the user has the choice. Maybe some users want to store messages in nnfolder but the MTA delivers to a maildir. >> Well, if you have the choice between replacing "From" lines with >> ">From" lines in the message body (now) or adding a Lines or >> Content-length header (my suggestion) -- what's worse? > > Agreed, but I think in the case of Maildir, we don't even need an > intermediate storage, right? Yes and no. mail-sources always needs an intermediate storage: it copies the messages from the spots specified in mail-sources to temp files, then from there into the groups. This avoids problems with locking. As mail-sources works for many types of sources, it uses the same mechanism always, to avoid the locking problems. kai --=20 A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)