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Per Bothner <per@bothner.com> writes:

  > Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
  > 
  > > Per Bothner <per@bothner.com> writes:
  > > > * In general, the Gnus defaults for mail are quite clumsy.
  > > > For example, there should be a single command to delete (make
  > > > expirable) messages and move to the next.  I ended up doing:
  > > 
  > > Use `E' for that.
  > 
  > 'E' does not move to the next message.  It also requires a shift.

`E' moves to the next message or to the next unread message, depending
on the value of gnus-summary-goto-unread.

  > The most common command when reading mail is "delete this message
  > and go to the next one".  This *has* to be a single-key command,
  > not requiring any key modifiers.

You're right.  I have the following in ~/.gnus:

(define-key gnus-summary-mode-map (kbd "d") 'gnus-summary-mark-as-expirable)

Maybe it is necessary to put (require 'gnus-sum) before this.  Marking
as read is still available as `M r', but marking as expirable also
works in news groups.

FWIW, I also have:

  (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map (kbd "C-d")
    (function (lambda () (interactive)
                (gnus-summary-mark-as-read))))

which clobbers C-d, so I put that somewhere else:

  (define-key gnus-summary-article-map "D" 'gnus-summary-enter-digest-group)

Entering a digest now works with `A D'.

Just my EUR 0.02.

kai
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