From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40462 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [RFC] nnmbox and first-time users Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:46:31 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176008 1018 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:53:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14690 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 15:47:28 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 15:47:28 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166Zar-0008DP-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:21 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15190 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:46:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14684 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 2001 15:47:04 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14668 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 15:47:03 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 15:47:03 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id fALFkbh14675 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:46:37 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id QAA22185; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:46:32 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id C47BD201B; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:46:31 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Gnus Beta Testers In-Reply-To: (Didier Verna's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:15:51 +0100") Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40462 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40462 Didier Verna writes: > Obviously, I understand that such an important variable cannot have > its default changed like that. In fact I think that slowly the time might have come to change a lot of important variables in an incompatible manner. That will at least show the users that something is wrong, and so they can correct it. We need to change the files and directories used for the servers to something unique. For example, use ~/Gnus/nnml/unnamed/ for the server (nnml ""), and so on. But there is a problem with the old .newsrc.eld files. Using the old file with the new directory is going to be a problem, but if we use a new file then it's difficult for users to resurrect marks. Thoughts? kai -- Simplification good! Oversimplification bad! (Larry Wall)