nn?? & smtp

nn?? & smtp

[Michael Welsh Duggan]

A couple of questions...

1) Has anyone set up NTEmacs to both read and send mail (and post
   messsages) from gnus (message.el)?  If so, how did you manage it?

2) POP3 &| STMP.  Can it be done?  Is it done?

3) Is there a good description anywhere of the current backends?  I
   know ... "Read the source, Luke" ... but I am thinking of an answer
   more suitable to a FAQ.  I seems there is a lot of nnthis, nnthat,
   and nntheotherthing.  Some of their purposes are obvious to me
   (nntp), some make a sort of half sense (nnkiboze --- I know what it
   is supposed to do, but not how.), and some I just don't know at all
   (nnsoup --- what is SOUP anyway?).

4) Since I checked the Gnus 5.x FAQ, the Gnus Info files (as of
   5.2.20, anyway), and the NTEmacs FAQ before asking these questions,
   my last question is this:  Was there a better place to find the
   answers to the above questions than posting to this ML?

Michael Welsh Duggan
md5i+@andrew.cmu.edu

Re: nn?? & smtp

[Fabrice POPINEAU]

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Welsh Duggan <md5i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

    Michael> 1) Has anyone set up NTEmacs to both read and send mail
    Michael> (and post messsages) from gnus (message.el)?  If so, how
    Michael> did you manage it?

I think  I'm using  it with  gnus-5.2.19.  I hope  I haven't  lost any
message for the moment ... My .gnus follows.

    Michael> 2) POP3 &| STMP.  Can it be done?  Is it done?

I'm reading mail by POP3 and sending it by SMTP with smtpmail.el

    Michael> 4) Since I checked the Gnus 5.x FAQ, the Gnus Info files
    Michael> (as of 5.2.20, anyway), and the NTEmacs FAQ before asking
    Michael> these questions, my last question is this: Was there a
    Michael> better place to find the answers to the above questions
    Michael> than posting to this ML?

Not yet.

The only glitch is that reading mail with POP3, gnus fetch the mailbox
once per mail group (or am I wrong ?).

I have yet to add tm-mime to my configuration.

-- 
Fabrice POPINEAU
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;;;
;;; (ding) gnus configuration file
;;;

;;; Mime
(setenv "MM_CHARSET" "iso-8859-1")

(setq gnus-use-picons nil)

(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.ese-metz.fr"))
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
      '((nnml "") ))

(require 'smtpmail)
(setenv "MAILHOST" "esemetz.ese-metz.fr")
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

(setq nnmail-spool-file "po:popineau")

; This one doesn't work : the connection is opened  once for each mail
; group, so you have to type your passwd many times

;(setq nnmail-pop-password-required t)

; So you have to give it
(setq nnmail-pop-password "YourPasswd")

; How to split your mail
(setq nnmail-split-methods
      '(("mail.iic" "^From:.*\\(popineau\\|mercier\\|ianotto\\|afzadeh\\|lhermitt\\)")
	("mail.iic" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*info-inge")
	("gnu-win32" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*gnu-win32@")
	("ncr53c810" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*ncr53c810@")
	("ntemacs" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*ntemacs-users@")
	("pic" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*PICLIST@")
	("gut" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*gut@")
	("lnat" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*ln@.*cnusc.fr")
	("clisp" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*clisp-list@")
	("ding-gnus" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*ding\\(-request\\)?@")
	("hyperbole" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*hyperbole\\(-request\\)?@")
	("fwntug" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*fwntug@")
	("caml" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*caml.*@.*inria.fr")
	("caml" "^From:.*\\(\\(\\[Ww\\]eis\\)\\|\\(\\[Ll\\]eroy\\)\\)")
	("logic-eprints" "^From:.*\\(logic\\|mitchell\\)@math.ufl.edu")
	("sf-franco" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*sffranco")
	("tex-k" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*tex-k@")
	("tex-pretest" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*tex-pretest@")
	("LaTeX" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*\\(LATEX-2E\\|TEX-ED\\|TEX-EURO\\|ctan-ann\\).*@")
	("TEI" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*TEI.*@")
	("THEORYNT" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*THEORYNT.*@")
	("mail.iic" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*iic")
	("mail.iic" "^From:.*lhermit")
	("mail.ese-metz" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*\\(info\\|inge\\|perso\\|all\\).*@.*ese-metz.fr")
	("mail.supelec" "^\\(To\\|CC\\|Cc\\):.*@supelec.fr")
	("mail.misc" "")
	)
)

; NT doesn't know about hard links
(setq nnmail-crosspost-link-function 'copy-file)


(setq gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups t)
(setq nnml-directory "~/Mail/")

(setq gnus-local-domain "ese-metz.fr")
(setq gnus-use-generic-from t)
(setq gnus-use-cross-reference t)
(setq gnus-local-organization
      "Supelec, Etablissement de Metz, France.")
(setq gnus-local-timezone "MET")
(setq gnus-use-followup-to t)
(setq gnus-article-save-directory "~/News/")
(setq gnus-default-article-saver 'gnus-summary-save-in-file)
(setq gnus-use-long-file-name '(not-save))
(setq gnus-default-distribution "world")
(setq gnus-novice-user ())
(setq gnus-auto-select-first ())
(setq gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups "^nnml:")
(setq nnmail-keep-last-article t)

(setq mhspool-article-header-read-size 4096)

; There is a local mirror of rtfm.mit.edu

(setq gnus-group-faq-directory 
      (cons "/anonymous@ftp.ese-metz.fr:pub/RTFM"
	    gnus-group-faq-directory))

; This maling  list (gut@ens.fr) is   buggy : R(eply) is  sending  the
; reply to the list

(setq gnus-reply-to-function
      (lambda (group) 
	(cond ((string= group "gut")
	       (or (mail-fetch-field "from")
		   (mail-fetch-field "sender")))
	      (t
	       (or (mail-fetch-field "reply-to") 
		   (mail-fetch-field "from"))))))


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Re: nn?? & smtp

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:41:38 -0400 (EDT), Michael Welsh Duggan
>>>>> <md5i+@andrew.cmu.edu> said:

  Michael> 3) Is there a good description anywhere of the current
  Michael> backends?

Go to the Info documentation, see the node `Choosing a Mail Backend'.
Though I admit that maybe there should be an overview over *all* the
backends, not just the mail ones.

kai
-- 
Life is hard and then you die.

Re: nn?? & smtp

[Eric J. Swenson]

Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> writes:

> I think  I'm using  it with  gnus-5.2.19.  I hope  I haven't  lost any
> message for the moment ... My .gnus follows.

And I'm using it with gnus-5-2-22 with no problems.  I won't include
my .gnus file since Fabrice already provided his.  

>     Michael> 2) POP3 &| STMP.  Can it be done?  Is it done?

Yes, to use POP3, just set nnmail-spool-file to something like
"po:username", where "po:" is a literal, and "username" is your
username.  You also must have movemail on your path (part of the NT
emacs distribution) and must set the MAILHOST environment variable to
the hostname of the machine that runs POP. You need to (setq
nnmail-pop-password-required t) if your POP server requires a password
(which it probably will).

To use SMTP, get the smtpmail.el package and set
message-send-mail-function to 'smtpmail-send-it.  You need to load or
require the smtpmail package.

> The only glitch is that reading mail with POP3, gnus fetch the mailbox
> once per mail group (or am I wrong ?).

The problem that Fabrice speaks about with Gnus running POP for each
mail group is fixed in 5.2.22.  

-- Eric