From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36402 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sender header? Date: 25 May 2001 11:35:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <01May23.141128edt.115245@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.115917edt.115250@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.143521edt.115214@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.153439edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.171325edt.115217@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171993 8390 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:46:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 9962 invoked by alias); 25 May 2001 09:36:23 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9957 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 09:36:22 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 May 2001 09:36:22 -0000 Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id LAA12889; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:35:45 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id LAA12221; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:35:45 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id LAA05587; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:35:44 +0200 X-Face: 6=pZ4hVbjN:C?j1$h/-bi4:F%*~B#Rxb$[0%!{5NK"dE:_QRAM]Dzl=$yMu%Rh4xCSm/#>! $n%@SHJ](KFJKL,uF\=G=bRJQC$ ?+Dlxu*pj.Z,-GK<~y7sd/l*PN\]>} In-Reply-To: (Stainless Steel Rat's message of "24 May 2001 21:12:58 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.104 Original-Lines: 31 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36402 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36402 On 24 May 2001, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > * Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) on Thu, 24 May > 2001 >| These guys' lives are so miserable already, why make it harder? >=20 > Then set "system-name" to something useful and be done with it. > That is about as easy as it gets. It's not so easy, for system-name is used for two different things: (a) for the mail address, and (b) for the Message-ID header. The requirements for these two are different. It's not always possible to have one value fulfill both requirements. Now you can claim that a new variable should be introduced for the Message-ID header, and I claim that a different variable should be used for the mail address. The end result is the same. Except that the variable for the mail address already exists -- mail-host-address could be used. In Germany, there are a number of dialup providers which provide call-by-call accounting. You call them, they give you an IP address, you can do IP. These providers do not provide a mailbox for the people dialing them. However, there are other freemail providers which one can use. Your requirements would prevent me from using their convenient and cheap service. I think it is not the job of a standard to prevent me from using a cheap service. kai --=20 ~/.signature: No such file or directory