From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/34960 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 24 Feb 2001 13:08:11 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170785 506 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:26:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBB2D049F for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:08:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB27523; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 06:08:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 24 Feb 2001 06:07:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17646 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 06:07:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA961D049F for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:08:14 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id NAA26688; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:08:12 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA18895; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:08:12 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id NAA14604; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:08:12 +0100 X-Face: 6=pZ4hVbjN:C?j1$h/-bi4:F%*~B#Rxb$[0%!{5NK"dE:_QRAM]Dzl=$yMu%Rh4xCSm/#>! $n%@SHJ](KFJKL,uF\=G=bRJQC$ ?+Dlxu*pj.Z,-GK<~y7sd/l*PN\]>} In-Reply-To: ("Jason R. Mastaler"'s message of "23 Feb 2001 15:57:40 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.99 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 24 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34960 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34960 On 23 Feb 2001, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > No. Many MUAs use the user's chosen e-mail address (such as Mutt) > in the message-id instead of the system's fqdn. I say that if the > 1st half of the message-id (before the "@") doesn't guarantee > uniqueness, then we need to rethink the algorithm for > `message-make-message-id'. No no no. Consider people with a gnu.org address, or acm.org, or hotmail.com. People who use the default Linux installation will probably be using an account with the user id 100 (or was it 1000?), so the user id part that goes into the local part of the message id doesn't help, either. You MUST use a rhs part for the msg id which uniquely identifies the computer you're sitting at. Savvy ISPs provide a rhs for their dialup customers -- the rhs doesn't have to be a valid hostname, so something like .dialup..net would do nicely. kai -- Be indiscrete. Do it continuously.