From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33715 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Disable generation of "Sender: " by default. Date: 17 Dec 2000 13:29:50 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169768 26545 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:09:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A986BD049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:32:12 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB26583; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:32:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:30:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01845 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:29:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC8DD049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:30:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id NAA20708; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:29:51 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA08799; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:29:51 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id NAA00802; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:29:50 +0100 Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat X-Face: /B3twq_DELA4]7alR?%xv(/f1N;bi:NN=UlA=(1a"pKte&5/Y/9*z&8q[P}+}YgJX_9*}k_ 0E|EJBC~yEok<#VOw:9GQWq1-;PCR-hd;3|Vk]~"|EM{Q5ir5nr!HzZ,W4\k5G|QWHw45gQ*tWydTR , Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.94 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33715 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33715 On 15 Dec 2000, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > News is different. For news, the Sender header is generated when > your From address does not match your local posting address. RFC > 1036 assumes that if you are posting from a particular host then you > can receive mail at that host. The assumption is invalid, but it is > in the standard. Hm. The only difference I can find between the description in RFC 822 and the one in 1036: * 1036 says that the Sender header should be verified by software at the submitting host. 822 says nothing about verification by software. * 1036 talks about the `entity' submitting the message into the network, 822 talks about the `agent (person, system or process)'. Gack. I still feel that the intent of the Sender header is the same in RFC 822 and 1036, but it's only a feeling. I don't know what Son-of-1036 says, and there is another document for this, I think, which I also don't know. I wish that Usenet was better standardized. As it is, we have to play by ear which is not good. kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)