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From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)
Cc: "François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Alan Shutko" <ats@acm.org>,
	ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: tick and backtick in unicode
Date: 30 Nov 2000 02:57:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vaflmu2rzlt.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001129054556.6773DDB0FB@tux.gnu.franken.de>

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Karl Eichwalder wrote:

> Markus explains that neither ASCII (ISO 646) nor ISO 8859-1 has left
> or right quote characters (neither double nor single); it has a
> single and a double quote you've to use to start and to end the
> quoted string.
> 
> ASCII has the grave accent ("back tick") and ISO 8859-1 has the cute

Are you saying that under your interpretation there is no way in
Unicode to display left and right single quotes?  IMVHO, such an
interpretation is silly, since the English speaking people have been
using left and right single (or double) quotes for ages to mark direct
speach and the like.  Removing these characters from Ascii or Latin-1
(or Unicode) means that it is not possible to express normal English
text using that encoding.  And surely we do not want to dumb down the
encoding in such a way that it becomes impossible to do that?

FWIW, TeX also uses `single quotes' like this.  By saying this, I mean
that when you provide TeX with an input that has `single quotes', then
the output will contain a single left and a single right quote.

I think it is not useful to make fonts such that TeX input looks
asymmetrical, nor such that Emacs Lisp code looks asymmetrical.

And I don't believe that shell code looks silly with left and right
quotes at all, no more silly than with grave and acute accents.

kai
-- 
The arms should be held in a natural and unaffected way and never
be conspicuous. -- Revised Technique of Latin American Dancing



  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-30  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-27 17:21 \201 irritation! :-) François Pinard
2000-08-27 21:13 ` François Pinard
2000-08-28  8:44   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-08-28 19:14 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-08-28 19:54   ` François Pinard
2000-08-28 21:36     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-08-28 22:46       ` François Pinard
2000-09-05 14:29         ` Dave Love
2000-09-05 16:19           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-09-08 23:32             ` Dave Love
2000-09-09  2:49               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-09-06 14:56           ` François Pinard
2000-09-08 22:40             ` Dave Love
2000-09-16 18:14               ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-18 14:07                 ` Dave Love
2000-09-20 16:56                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-20 19:26                     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-11-11 16:35                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-15  5:38                         ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-27 13:40                         ` François Pinard
2000-11-27 14:35                           ` tick and backtick in unicode Alan Shutko
2000-11-27 16:56                             ` François Pinard
2000-11-27 19:47                               ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-27 20:57                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-11-28  6:01                                 ` François Pinard
2000-11-29  5:45                                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-30  1:57                                     ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2000-11-30  4:19                                       ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-30  6:33                                         ` Graham Murray
2000-11-30 12:38                                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-11-30 11:23                                       ` Toby Speight
2000-09-21 19:33                     ` \201 irritation! :-) Dave Love
2000-09-23 11:14                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-25 11:55                         ` Dave Love
2000-09-28 12:22                           ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-29 19:18                             ` QP encoding is now unibyte (was: " Florian Weimer
2000-10-03 23:17                             ` Dave Love
2000-09-05 14:16 ` Dave Love
2000-09-06 14:49   ` François Pinard
2000-09-06 20:15     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-07  7:34       ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-08  9:31         ` Janne Rinta-Manty
2000-09-08 17:49           ` Simon Josefsson
2000-09-08 23:44         ` Dave Love
2000-09-12  8:51           ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-12 12:02             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-13 19:25             ` Dave Love
2000-09-14  7:49               ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-14 12:18                 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-14 21:50                   ` Dave Love
2000-09-14 23:06                     ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-18 13:51                       ` Dave Love
2000-09-18 14:39                         ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-22 14:23                           ` Dave Love
2000-09-14 21:42                 ` Dave Love
2000-09-15  3:29                 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-20  9:34                   ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-20 13:06                     ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-20 14:55                       ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-20 14:16                         ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-21  8:35                           ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-21 19:02                             ` Dave Love
2000-09-23  6:35                             ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-09-25 11:33                               ` Dave Love
2000-09-25 18:50                                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-09-27 21:56                                   ` Dave Love
2000-09-08 22:33     ` Dave Love

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