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From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)
Subject: Re: Sender header?
Date: 25 May 2001 18:49:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vafn181fk6s.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3y9rlcs6s.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu> (prj@po.cwru.edu's message of "25 May 2001 12:24:21 -0400")

On 25 May 2001, Paul Jarc wrote:

> According to RFC 1036, Sender is for news more or less what Rat says
> it should be for mail - it's used for tracking down where a message
> entered the network.  So user-login-name@system-name is the right
> thing in that case.  Sender for mail is something completely
> different, and just happens to have the same name.

RFC 1036 has this example:

/----
|     For example, if John Smith is visiting CCA and wishes to post a
|     message to the network, using friend Sarah Jones' account, the
|     message might read:
| 
|               From: smith@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Smith)
|               Sender: jones@cca.COM (Sarah Jones)
\----

cca.COM doesn't look like the system name of any host.  So the
requirement for the rhs to be the system name would contradict this
example.

Also, I'm having difficulty finding support in RFC 1036 for Sender
addresses to be any different than other mail addresses (in
particular, the mail addresses in the From header).  There is a word
`verified' in there, but the RFC does not say what it means.  Also,
the intent of the whole thing seems to be that it is possible to send
mail to the address in the Sender header -- and if `user@host.dom.ain'
is not the right place to send email for mails, then it's not the
right place to send emails for news, either.

Or am I mistaken?  Maybe son or grandson have better information, but
I keep forgetting where to find them.

kai
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-25 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-23 16:27 Kai Großjohann
2001-05-23 16:34 ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 13:17   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-23 18:14 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 13:11   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-24 15:59     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 16:31       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-24 18:35         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 19:00           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 19:34             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 19:52               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 20:32                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 20:48                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 21:20                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 21:31                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25  1:15                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 15:26                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 22:59                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25  1:23                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  2:38                           ` Bjørn Mork
2001-05-25  4:12                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  9:30                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25  9:28                           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 20:08                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 20:30                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 22:00                                 ` Bjørn Mork
2001-05-26  5:09                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-27 22:34                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 23:14                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-27 23:31                                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 21:49                               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-26  5:29                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-26 22:26                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-24 23:18                       ` Barry Fishman
2001-05-25  1:30                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 16:06                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25  2:10                         ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-25  4:24                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  5:05                             ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-25 16:13                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 16:17                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 17:50                             ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-25 18:16                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 19:45                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-25 21:59                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 21:55                               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 23:40                                 ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]                                   ` <87y9rknm6e.fsf@bandersnatch.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me>
2001-05-26 16:05                                     ` Harry Putnam
2001-06-02 21:44                                       ` Amos Gouaux
2001-05-26 22:21                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-27 21:39                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 22:00                                     ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-27 22:22                                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-26 17:02                           ` Barry Fishman
2001-05-26 20:20                             ` Harry Putnam
2001-05-27 23:38                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 23:42                             ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25  3:08                         ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-25  4:28                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  5:21                             ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-25  9:23                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 20:00                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 21:52                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-26  5:33                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-26 22:24                                     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 11:46                           ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-05-25 21:56                             ` Jesper Harder
2001-05-25 16:21                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-26  6:45                             ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-26 22:22                               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-27 21:46                                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 21:45                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 22:48                                 ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-25  2:01                       ` Bjørn Mork
2001-05-24 22:53                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25  1:38                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 14:56                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 20:12                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25 20:39                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 22:04                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 22:15                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 22:34                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 22:47                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-26  5:26                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-27 22:15                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-27 23:02                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-27 23:20                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 20:30               ` Graham Murray
2001-05-24 21:13                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-24 21:26                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25  1:12                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  2:27                       ` Bjørn Mork
2001-05-25  4:10                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  9:37                           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 19:54                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  3:10                       ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-25  4:11                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  5:20                           ` Russ Allbery
2001-05-25 15:55                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 23:02                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25  1:12                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-05-25  9:35                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-24 22:40           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 14:44             ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-24 22:49           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-24 20:18     ` Christoph Conrad
2001-05-24 20:29       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25  8:17         ` Christoph Conrad
2001-05-25  1:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-05-25  9:19   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 11:50     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-05-25 15:31       ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 21:21       ` Christoph Conrad
2001-05-25 15:35     ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 16:12       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-05-25 16:24         ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 16:49           ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2001-05-25 17:39             ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 18:01               ` Bjørn Mork
2001-05-25 18:23                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-05-25 18:01               ` Kai Großjohann

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