From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36400 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sender header? Date: 25 May 2001 11:28:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <01May23.141128edt.115245@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.115917edt.115250@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.143521edt.115214@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.153439edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.163305edt.115259@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.172056edt.115272@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171991 8380 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:46:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 9894 invoked by alias); 25 May 2001 09:29:36 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9889 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 09:29:36 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 May 2001 09:29:36 -0000 Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id LAA12728; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:28:58 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id LAA12143; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:28:58 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id LAA05576; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:28:58 +0200 X-Face: 6=pZ4hVbjN:C?j1$h/-bi4:F%*~B#Rxb$[0%!{5NK"dE:_QRAM]Dzl=$yMu%Rh4xCSm/#>! $n%@SHJ](KFJKL,uF\=G=bRJQC$ ?+Dlxu*pj.Z,-GK<~y7sd/l*PN\]>} In-Reply-To: (Stainless Steel Rat's message of "24 May 2001 21:23:05 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.104 Original-Lines: 44 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36400 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36400 On 24 May 2001, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > * Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) on Thu, 24 May > 2001 >| Really? Why should a login have anything to do with a mail >| address? >=20 > Because a mailbox is defined as type "addr-spec", which is" >=20 > 3.4.1. Addr-spec specification >=20 > An addr-spec is a specific Internet identifier that contains a > locally interpreted string followed by the at-sign character > ("@", ASCII value 64) followed by an Internet domain. The > locally interpreted string is either a quoted-string or a > dot-atom. If the string can be represented as a dot-atom (that > is, it contains no characters other than atext characters or "." > surrounded by atext >=20 > The defacto standard for the locally interpreted string is one's > login name, has been that way for more than 30 years. The defacto standard for the locally interpreted string has changed. These days, people want to hide the login names for security purposes. >| Why should a FQDN be (the after-@ part of) a mail address? >=20 > Because a domain-literal is exactly that. A domain-literal need not be a FQDN, it can also be a domain name. For example, uni-dortmund.de is a possible domain-literal, even though there is no such host. > Together, "login @ fqdn" absolutely identifies the sender given a > reasonably configured system. The way I see it, your requirements for `reasonably configured' are pretty steep, and what you want makes life really hard for people working on systems which don't match your idea of `reasonably configured'. This is pointless. kai --=20 ~/.signature: No such file or directory