From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21670 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Movement commands Date: 01 Mar 1999 16:20:49 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159732 24149 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:22:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17776 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:23:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB11956; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:22:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:21:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15462 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:21:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17730 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:21:37 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (ramses.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.180]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id QAA06888 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:20:55 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de id QAA03431; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:20:52 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070079 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.79) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21670 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21670 I have now set gnus-summary-goto-unread to 'never and used that for a while (2 weeks?). It is almost but not quite what I want. I'm missing the ability to move to the next or previous unread message. All other commands behave in a meaningful way. I still think that using orthogonal marking and movement is the only way to make Gnus flexible enough for all needs. (By orthogonality I mean that it should be possible to specify the following movement behaviors for *all* marking commands: don't move, move to the next/previous message, move to the next/previous unread message. Currently, different commands behave in different ways.) kai -- I like _b_o_t_h kinds of music.