From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44215 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: "CNET imagines the perfect e-mail client" - can Emacs be it? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:32:21 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <871ydpajnq.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> <87ofgrh97l.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018460115 15587 127.0.0.1 (10 Apr 2002 17:35:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16vM02-00043A-00 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:35:14 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16vLyq-0003nS-00; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:34:00 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:34:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14414 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:33:56 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 3590 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 2002 17:33:31 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3585 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2002 17:33:31 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 2002 17:33:31 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g3AHWRb13120; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:32:27 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id TAA00030; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:32:22 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id E9B093AEF1; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Chris Beggy In-Reply-To: <87ofgrh97l.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> ((Chris Beggy ) news@kippona.com's message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:19:58 -0400") Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44215 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44215 (Chris Beggy ) news@kippona.com writes: > So I think tick is ! (bang). Then the item stays in the [TODO] > thread until it is completed, at which point the tick is removed, > and the item can expire. Does the !(bang) mark all of the way > back to the IMAP server, not just in gnus? > > Is that right? Mostly. See below. > Then do you expire(expunge) it from the IMAP server as well, or just > from everyone's gnus? Do you preserve it on the server as a record > of what has been done? I haven't shared IMAP folders before, but I > use IMAP/nnimap. We mark the message as read, and since we are NOT using total-expire, this means that it is kept on the server. Also, we are using Cyrus (in an old version) where all marks (except the read mark) are global across all users. In particular, the tick mark is across all users. I am using the following kludge to make the dormant mark be local to each user: (setq nnimap-importantize-dormant nil) (setcdr (assq 'dormant nnimap-mark-to-flag-alist) (format "gnus-dormant-%s" (user-login-name))) (setcdr (assq 'dormant nnimap-mark-to-predicate-alist) (format "KEYWORD gnus-dormant-%s" (user-login-name))) Whee. I think that Cyrus 2.x allows me to specify which marks should be per-user marks. So I wonder how to migrate this hack to the new version :-{ Any ideas? Anyone? kai -- Silence is foo!