From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35051 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 27 Feb 2001 23:47:18 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170857 945 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:27:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC312D049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:48:08 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAB24891; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:47:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:47:05 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16076 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:46:53 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943CAD049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:47:20 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id XAA11566 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:19 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id XAA01880; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:19 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id XAA28680; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:18 +0100 X-Face: 6=pZ4hVbjN:C?j1$h/-bi4:F%*~B#Rxb$[0%!{5NK"dE:_QRAM]Dzl=$yMu%Rh4xCSm/#>! $n%@SHJ](KFJKL,uF\=G=bRJQC$ ?+Dlxu*pj.Z,-GK<~y7sd/l*PN\]>} ("Jason R. Mastaler"'s message of "27 Feb 2001 14:44:34 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.99 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 29 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35051 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35051 On 27 Feb 2001, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > >> Ah, right. Others violate the standard, so let's do it, too. >> Right. Way to go. Argh! > > But you haven't provided any proof of this "standard" of requiring > the fqdn (and nothing else) of the running system to make up the > rhs. The standard does not require the fqdn. The standard requires the rhs to uniquely identify the host. For dialup users, it might be convenient to use a rhs of the form johnsmith.dialup.provider.net even though this `host name' is not a valid name in the DNS. But the host master of the provider.net domain guarantees that a rhs of this form always uniquely identifies the dialup host of the user `johnsmith'. I hope you now understand the intent of the rhs of a message id. I've been so vague in saying `the standard' because I knew it's a pertinent RFC, but I forgot the number. Thankfully, Paul said it's RFC 1036. Okay, now you can replace `the standard' with `RFC 1036' in my previous posts... :-) kai -- Be indiscrete. Do it continuously.