From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38273 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: *Server* buffer problems when adding server parameters Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:32:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174165 21510 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:22:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 29944 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2001 22:32:40 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 22:32:40 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id AAA01753; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:32:12 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id AAA06321; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:32:11 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id 5CCD7206B; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:32:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Benjamin Rutt In-Reply-To: (Benjamin Rutt's message of "Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:36:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.105 Original-Lines: 60 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38273 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38273 Benjamin Rutt writes: > Thanks for the help, Lars and Kai, and sorry for my misunderstanding > of what the select method should look like. It was fairly recently discovered that it is better to use strings than lists. I think. > To defend myself, I think the following line in gnus info threw me, > when I was trying to learn what he meant by "Have a peek at the > select method of these groups": > > ,----[ from (Info-goto-node "(gnus)Select Methods") ] > | a select method is a list where the first element says what backend to > | use (e.g. `nntp', `nnspool', `nnml') and the second element is the > | "server name". There may be additional elements in the select method, > | where the value may have special meaning for the backend in question. > `---- > > So, I figured that when lars asked me to check on the select method > for the groups, he was telling me to sure the second element of the > list making up the select method is the string "archive", which it > was. I couldn't grok the idea that a select method was not a list, > since it said clearly that it is a list in the documentation above. > So, don't we have a doc bug in the above info node? I'm sorry that I > don't know enough about a select method yet to know how to correct it, > though. I'm thinking it could be revised to say something like "a > select method is either the server name as a string or a list where > the first element..." There is a select method and a server. Often, they are used interchangeably. I think a server can be either a list (like a select method) or a server name (not sure whether that should be just "archive" or just "nnfolder:archive" in your case). The terminology in the Gnus documentation is confusing. Please help to clean it up by asking about anything that you find confusing. > If the above is a bug, then surely the following is a bug also, > > ,----[ from (Info-goto-node "(gnus)Terminology") ] > | "select method" > | A structure that specifies the backend, the server and the virtual > | server settings. > `---- > > unless by "structure" it is obvious to the reader that it can either > be a string or a list. Err... Since I'm not really sure what the terminology should be, I better not comment on this, I think. Maybe it turns out that a "server" can be a string of a list, where the list is the "select method". Maybe not. Lars? kai -- Symbol's function definition is void: signature