From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28368 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai=?iso-8859-1?q?_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: missing POP3 mail Date: 21 Dec 1999 21:47:58 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <99Dec14.120926est.115246@gateway.intersys.com> <99Dec14.153841est.115251@gateway.intersys.com> <99Dec15.104725est.115250@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165229 29506 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:53:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EF7D051E for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:51:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB14888; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:50:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14162 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DCAD051F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:48:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id VAA20314 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:47:59 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id VAA19676; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:47:59 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from grossjoh@localhost) by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id VAA14905; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:47:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de: grossjoh set sender to Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE using -f Original-To: "(ding)" In-Reply-To: Andrew Hilborne's message of "17 Dec 1999 10:49:49 +0000" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28368 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28368 Might it be the infamous terminating empty line thing again? Gnus calls movemail (or the corresponding function) which should produce a file or a buffer. Gnus then inspects that to see which format it has got. If Gnus thinks it is mbox format, then it thinks that every message must start with `From ' at the beginning of a line AND END WITH AN EMPTY LINE. It would be conceivable that Gnus sees an mbox file which does not have the terminating empty line. In this case, Gnus would treat several messages as one message (until the next empty line). How could the missing empty line happen? Well, the POP3 protocol specifies that each message be terminated by `.' on a line by itself; a terminating empty line is not required. So if you concat two messages as output by POP3, the empty line might not be there. I think I used to have a long discussion with Rat about this, but I don't know what became of it. Can you show us what does your POP3 server output when you fetch a message? And what does the Incoming file look like which is generated by Gnus? (Set mail-source-delete-incoming to nil to see.) Try with messages with and without terminating empty lines (before the `.' in the POP output). kai -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.