From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23435 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances Date: 22 Jun 1999 10:23:13 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161168 2002 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:46:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23137 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAB04208; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:24:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03369 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:24:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23074 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de (petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.161]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id KAA02818 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:23:15 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de id KAA27431; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:23:14 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Per Bothner's message of "21 Jun 1999 17:36:24 -0700" Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) Emacs/20.3.10 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23435 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23435 Per Bothner writes: > * Bottom line: Gnus is not usable as a mail reader for non-hacker > types. There are just too many options, there is no introductory > manual, and the defaults are non-intuitive. Even setting it up > so it suitable for non-hackers is difficult. I ended up setting > up my boyfriend to use VM. He is not 100% happy with VM, but > I don't see how gnus could be an option. That is a shame. Hm. In the past, I have set up Gnus for a couple of people as follows: when a mail is selected, it is automatically ticked, and total-expire is turned on. This makes Gnus behave more or less like a normal mail reader: already-read messages can be distinguished from new ones, and they are always shown, and deleted messages are normally not shown. What do you think about this? > * In there any commend to re-number the messages in a mail folder? > I'm used to mhe, which would re-use numbers on expired messages, > and when teh numbers approaches 10000, I would run an mh command > to renumber the entire folder. Yes, this is an esthetic issue, > not really important ... You can make them have consecutive numbers by moving all messages from a group to the same group. Rat has already explained why re-using low numbers is not a good idea at all. kai -- Life is hard and then you die.