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Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

  > * Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE  on Thu, 01 Apr 1999
  > | What pop3-movemail does amounts to interpreting From_ as the end of
  > | the message (the beginning of a new one, actually, but you know what I
  > | mean).
  > 
  > This is nonsense, as you would see if you looked at the source code.  pop3
  > sees a message as a message, exactly as the server presents it.  pop3
  > generates a delimiter at the *beginning* of the message it is currently
  > dealing with only when no delimiter exists.

pop3-movemail does not interpret the internals of a message in any
way.  In this sense, what I wrote was nonsense.  But pop3-movemail
assumes that From_ lines are escaped (or the Content-Length header is
present) _in its input_, even though there is *no* reason whatsoever
to think that the input is in mbox format.

kai
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