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On 05 Feb 2001, Janusz S. Bie=F1 wrote:

> Could you explain in a few words the essential difference between
> zombie and killed groups?

Zombie groups exist for a reason: for dealing with new groups.  Some
people might want new groups to be subscribed automatically.  But some
people don't want that, because they are normally not interested in
the new groups.  So it might be better to kill the new groups, rather
than subscribing them.

But if you kill new groups, you can't tell which groups are new,
anymore.  The new groups will be amongst all those uninteresting
groups.

Hence zombie groups.  They are almost like killed groups, except that
you can do `A z' to see the list of new groups (if you set
gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method to gnus-subscribe-zombies).  After `A
z', you `C-k' (kill) the ones you don't want and you `u' (subscribe)
the ones you like.  And when tomorrow there are three more new groups,
`A z' lists just those three.

kai
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