From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39999 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Using iso-8859-15 with Emacs21 & Gnus Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:29:11 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <877ktg7l35.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87bsim7mw5.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <2n1yjio8ug.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87u1wexktw.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <2n7ktaul0k.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87wv19vuba.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <2nhescyf4t.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87g07wnnrv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <2nofmjvrb7.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87snbvha4f.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175619 30912 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:46:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 16176 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 18:30:10 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 18:30:10 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 160S1y-0004mf-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 12:30:02 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Nov 2001 12:29:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08425 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:29:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 16158 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2001 18:29:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16153 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 18:29:44 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 18:29:44 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id fA4ITHk12984; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:29:17 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id TAA11960; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:29:12 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id CD4CF201A; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:29:11 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Florian Weimer In-Reply-To: <87snbvha4f.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (Florian Weimer's message of "Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:28:48 +0100") Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39999 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39999 Florian Weimer writes: > Anyway, I think Kai was talking about the default charset for posting, > which is properly MIME-declared by Gnus. Well, err. Hm. I wasn't thinking of this explicitly, but in effect, that's what I was saying: right now, Gnus uses Latin-1 for German Umlauts, and after I switch to Latin-9, Gnus should use Latin-9 for the Umlauts, too. In the current design of Mule, this would be achieved by the following chain of events: * I change (set-language-environment "Latin-1") to (set-language-environment "Latin-9"). * Now typing `" a' inserts a Latin-9 =E4 which Emacs distinguishes from a Latin-1 =E4. * Gnus sees non-Ascii Latin-9 characters in my post and chooses iso-8859-15 as charset. After changing Mule to unify the various Latin-* charsets, Emacs does not distinguish the two variants of =E4 anymore. Not sure what that means to the whole procedure. Maybe Latin-9 is preferred and used whenever possible, after set-language-environment? Maybe. kai --=20 I like BOTH kinds of music.