Re: Strange server names confusion

[Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)]

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:
> > Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>>> Foreign groups are identified by the name of the server (car of each
>>> entry in `gnus-server-alist').
>> 
>> And secondary groups are identified in some other way?
>
> Here's the story AIUI.  Every select method has a first element (the
> backend) and a second element (which you and I might have thought of
> as the "name" but which Gnus calls the "address").  Some select
> methods (the primary and foreign ones) also have "server names".  The
> primary select method's name is "native", and a foreign method's name
> is its key in gnus-server-alist.  Secondary select methods do not have
> "server names".

Is there a way for a foreign server to have a different name than
address using the `normal' Gnus functions?  Or do I have to frob
gnus-server-alist directly for that?

>> Does this mean I can have two secondary servers with the same name (as
>> long as the backend is different), but not two foreign servers with
>> the same name?
>
> You can have two servers of any kind with the same "address" if they
> have different backends.  You cannot have two servers of any kind with
> the same "name".  I think.

Okay, I think I got that.  Since secondary servers don't have names,
it's not a problem to have both (nnml "" ...) and (nnimap ""...).

>> Well, I tried to enter "nntp:quimby" (with quotes) after `G e' on the
>> group, then I tried to enter the group -- no dice.  But with "quimby"
>> (with quotes), it worked.
>
> I think "nntp:quimby.gnus.org" would work, assuming "quimby.gnus.org"
> is the second element of your select method.

I have the following entry in gnus-server-alist:

("quimby" nntp "quimby" (nntp-address "news.gnus.org"))

I think that this means that both the name and the address are
"quimby".  Therefore, "nntp:quimby" should work.  But it doesn't, only
"quimby" works.

Or are you saying that with the above entry, "nntp:news.gnus.org"
should work?  Whee...

kai
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